Manson Supreme 25

[ballystick 20]

I'm looking at replacing my Manson 40 plough on my Farr 38 with a Manson Supreme as the plough tends to skip rather than dig especialy on hard packed sea beds. It's on 40 metres of 10 mm chain, but I may be able to buy a 25 rather than the recommended 35 which doesn't fit in the locker. 

Would the 25 have superior holding to the 40 plough? 

[Fish 595]

We had a 35 lb plough. I replaced it with one of these modern new fangled anchors. After spending the $$$'s, I took both anchors down to the beach at low tide to see how they set.

I dragged the plough up and down the beach in a massive figure 8, walking pace. Couldn't get it to set to save myself. I had had a sneaking suspicion that every time I anchored, the boat was just hanging on the chain on the seabed. Despite careful best anchoring practice, I wasn't ever sure the anchor had dug in, this beach at low tide exercise (same sea floor as most bays I park in around here) proved my point.

 

The new fangled anchor set in 1 anchor length. Same ground as the plough that wouldn't set at all. It was diving deep and digging in. Now when I set the anchor on the boat, the boat stops. Like backing down on a brick wall. I actually make sure everyone is sitting down in the cockpit before backing down now, the boat can stop fairly abruptly.

 

So I would say you could go a size down on a modern anchor over a plough. As far as I can tell, ploughs rely on total weight, not shape, for setting and / or holding. I'm not familiar with the Manson Supreme though. We got a Sarca Excel, #4, 16 kg, for a 37 ft 7 tonne boat. Supplied by some dodgy place on Auckland's North Shore. I'm sure a regular poster will be along shortly with more details.

 

PS, I wouldn't want this post to be construed that I have every actually listened to KM, or taken what he said seriously...but I am very happy with the Excel, and it is night and day better than a plough.

 

Edit, photos added

 

[Island Time 775]

I'm looking at replacing my Manson 40 plough on my Farr 38 with a Manson Supreme as the plough tends to skip rather than dig especialy on hard packed sea beds. It's on 40 metres of 10 mm chain, but I may be able to buy a 25 rather than the recommended 35 which doesn't fit in the locker. 

Would the 25 have superior holding to the 40 plough?

 

Absolutely. Head and shoulders above.

I use a rocna 20 (old, nz made one) on island time, 40 ft, about 8 tonne loaded. Sets as described above. But I’d have no issue with a Manson supreme or a sarca excel either. Modern anchors are just way better. No way would I consider going back to a plough. Of any size.

[Priscilla II 246]

No chain required I see, bloody miracle wonder these modern anchors.

Went Sarca Excel and retired stainless CQR to the bilge as spare.

Pretty damned grippy without dredging up seafloor and burdening capstan.

Seen a bucket load of my testicles are bigger than yours anchor tests but the winner in my view was Panope on SA.

Set off a boat and filmed in action not sunbathing on a beach being towed around by a Massey Fergusson.

[nagy592 21]

As above with a note, if it is only for attended anchoring, 25 is fine, however if you want to leave the boat alone on anchor for extended period (I mean the boat is not in sight for a day or so) I would be more relaxed with the 35. In case of insurance involved. According to the anchor selector on Manso's website I the recommended size was 35 for me. I put my faith on a 25 for Topaz (even it isn't fit through on my locker hatch), she is around 4.5t with moderate windage I think boat length is not so relevant. If it is the first time when you try the Supreme, or Rocna you will be impressed.

[Ladyhawk 21]

Another vote for the Excel, we have a N04 (16kg)on LadyHawk, which I is soooo much better than the CQR that it replaced. No contest at all.

Digs in very quickly and sets off on its way to china the harder you pull on it. Thanks to the team at CRA for supplying, now however, I wish they would sell the Mantus dingy anchor...

[ballystick 20]

Thanks for sharing your experiences, especially Fish with his testing especially. Looks like a Manson it will be!

[Tamure 360]

It you dont want a roll bar then the excel is the way to go

[Crazyhorse 47]

Manson supreme 25 works for us. Had some issues getting it to set on 15m of 8mm short link and warp so went to that same dodgy anchor and chain place on the shore who sent us another 15m of maggi chain and joiner, bloody brilliant. Anchor sets first time instead of towing it all around the bay. Big....as in lotto winner boats.. seem to do well on the old Bruce. Way to big for us.

[raz88 56]

Are the weights people are talking here pounds or kgs?