Kick Ass 25 Posted April 8, 2020 Report Share Posted April 8, 2020 Evening! this lockdown has given me to much time to think and have the itch or curiosity of looking into cost of upgrading keel and also if anyone have plans they are willing to share for the 1050 latest gen keel. would be interested in pushing the boundaries a bit with the std 2.3 draught and the consequences around that with keel floors and chain plates. She currently looks very strong in those areas but am not an engineer. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
wheels 405 Posted April 8, 2020 Report Share Posted April 8, 2020 Are we talking an Elliot 1050 ? If yes, Greg Elliot would be the best person to talk to. He designed and fitted a T Keel to "Cutting Edge". He is going to be the best person to tell you what needs to be done to the structure of the Boat if any. Cost is also going to be different depending on how much you do yourself or if it is done by a professional yard. I am out of my depth on this part, but I would expect that to be able to maintain a Cat number for racing (depending on what racing you want to do) you may need a properly engineered design, hence Elliots involvement. You may also get around having to do stability tests because Elliott will likely be able to proved all the figures and the fact that he has done it before. New one off's can be fraught with all sorts of expensive issues otherwise. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Priscilla II 246 Posted April 8, 2020 Report Share Posted April 8, 2020 Follow Wheels advice. https://www.sailingscuttlebutt.com/2020/01/09/designer-clarifies-cause-of-keel-failure/ Quote Link to post Share on other sites
44forty 94 Posted April 8, 2020 Report Share Posted April 8, 2020 Kevin Dibley is another option . He specialises in foil upgrades and has done a fair few successful ones including mini maxis . Think he did Truxtons ? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
marinheiro 185 Posted April 8, 2020 Report Share Posted April 8, 2020 I suggest having a talk to Mike Rees first, he will tell you what a new keel would cost and if that does not make you gulp too much then you could pursue the idea further. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Tamure 411 Posted April 8, 2020 Report Share Posted April 8, 2020 I'd give Greg Elliot a call Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Kick Ass 25 Posted April 8, 2020 Author Report Share Posted April 8, 2020 Was interested in peoples experiences and the true cost. im not in a financial position right now for a project like this right now but just interested to see what it would be before talking to designers etc. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Fish 661 Posted April 8, 2020 Report Share Posted April 8, 2020 You could also talk to markm about how much it would cost your handicap... You can spend a lot of coin to go faster and come out even or behind on the results due to the vagaries of the handicaps. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Kick Ass 25 Posted April 8, 2020 Author Report Share Posted April 8, 2020 15 minutes ago, Fish said: You could also talk to markm about how much it would cost your handicap... You can spend a lot of coin to go faster and come out even or behind on the results due to the vagaries of the handicaps. Not really that interested in handicaps, already heavily penalised for our taller rig. we need to find more speed in pressure upwind and reaching forward of the beam and am struggling against the 1050’s with updated keels plus they have a smaller rating. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Clipper 200 Posted April 8, 2020 Report Share Posted April 8, 2020 4 minutes ago, Kick Ass said: we need to find more speed in pressure upwind and reaching forward of the beam and am struggling against the 1050’s with updated keels plus they have a smaller rating. The drag penalty of a larger rig may be a big part of the issue, rather than the keel? i have receipts from when Gales keel was done 10 years ago. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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