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40 minutes ago, Dtwo said:

And to calm down those who would suggest murder would be a disproportionate response, I'll spell it out:  the topic post was tongue-in-cheek.  Take a breath.

Breaking legs - too much?

Apparently Trump was talkin tongue in check the other day too... ;-)

I've always thought it important to prove they are breaking navigation bylaws. How do you prove they are within 50 m of you? If you can throw an empty glass bottle and hit them, they'd def be within 50 m. Even if you miss, those empties float, and wont do well if it at high speed. Could damage their machine...

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Well imagine if your kids are swimming around the back of the boat and the jetski comes around the front.  So yes, it's obviously dangerous.  It is also illegal and ignorant. The 5 knot law appli

If you took the title of this thread litterally then maybe you have had a little too much internet?

Dear Mr Sabre and Mr Fish, Please excuse my presumption you are blokes, while I'm pretty sure you are we do live in the days of delicates and loveys who are offended if they aren't offended. So f

11 hours ago, Fish said:

Apparently Trump was talkin tongue in check the other day too... ;-)

I've always thought it important to prove they are breaking navigation bylaws. How do you prove they are within 50 m of you? If you can throw an empty glass bottle and hit them, they'd def be within 50 m. Even if you miss, those empties float, and wont do well if it at high speed. Could damage their machine...

Proof? Thats easy, Section 25 Evidence Act - opinion evidence is admissible from experts. The court would readily accept evidence from a harbour master who would state there qualifications and experience then give evidence on a speed and distance estimate based on the video. Police can also prosecute speeding offences this way but it is rare these days. So the video and some S25 evidence would cover it nicely.

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12 hours ago, Dtwo said:

Well imagine if your kids are swimming around the back of the boat and the jetski comes around the front.  So yes, it's obviously dangerous.  It is also illegal and ignorant.

The 5 knot law applies 200m from shore and 50m from other vessels.  Clearly this guy doesn't know, doesn't care, or both.

And to calm down those who would suggest murder would be a disproportionate response, I'll spell it out:  the topic post was tongue-in-cheek.  Take a breath.

Breaking legs - too much?

Well said. The dangers are obvious.

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Personally I've never been too bothered by Jetski's, or by big launches making massive wakes. Seriously its not worth the heartburn or for that matter telling the world you'd like to kill people over it. Once I had some guy run his genset all night, someone else had their windwill running at full tit all night as well, yet another guy chucked his anchor over mine in fitzroy in a blow but you know what- it really doesnt matter in the grand scheme. 

A note on jetskies, most of these people are not "mariners" or "yachties" they are usually guys who ride them like motocross bikes.

 

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21 hours ago, Fish said:

What are you going to do? walk up to someone at the boat ramp and attack them with a filleting knife?

You escalated that quickly!!!

I didn't get that sort of vibe from this thread and I'm really not sure why you did?

That aside, a little person swimming behind the boat wouldn't stand a chance if this guy comes hurtling along unannounced.

I personally have nothing against jetskis and have even considered getting one myself for fishing (perfect for getting over the shallow bar where we keep our caravan) but they need to be operated sensibly so that they don't excessively impact on other peoples enjoyment of the water.

At our regular holiday spot I would say about 70% of the jetskis and 30% of the fizz boats are exceeding the 5 knot rule through the estuary where many people enjoy swimming and harvesting seafood.

I'm interested to find out the details of this incident...

https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&url=https://www.stuff.co.nz/bay-of-plenty/123872638/jetski-incident-appears-to-have-caused-death-of-man-found-in-river-police-say&ved=2ahUKEwjRtbTxg5LuAhUr7XMBHTBmDHoQFjAAegQIARAB&usg=AOvVaw3CWzN4c4wsy11rbwtCq3vE

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they need to be operated sensibly so that they don't excessively impact on other peoples enjoyment of the water

I totally agree but here is the rub; other peoples enjoyment of the water might be different to ours. If you think about it there is the safety side and its just thoughtless to hoon around moored boats for that very reason.

Jestskies are a bit of an affront to birdsong in a quiet bay but to some people going for a burn on glassy water is their idea of a really good time and who am I to impose my values on them as long as they stick to sabres advice above.

 

 

 

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