harrytom 642 Posted March 27, 2015 Share Posted March 27, 2015 Has anyone had a set made from the Philippine loft? Thinking of getting mainsail made,sail maker reckons cheaper for a standard Dacron sail to be made and shipped than local?is this correct? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
harrytom 642 Posted March 27, 2015 Author Share Posted March 27, 2015 thanks,certainly would place order through a nz agent Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Island Time 1,235 Posted March 28, 2015 Share Posted March 28, 2015 The real issue is being absolutely certain of what you are getting. I looked at offshore lofts, or even Kit sails from Sailrite. Once the correct specifications I wanted was reached (Right cloth, design, fittings etc) they were less than 20% cheaper than local sails. My new main will come from Norths, here in Auckland. PM Booboo on this site for a price/info, or click the Norths Advert. Support our Advertisers! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
S.M.U. 15 Posted March 28, 2015 Share Posted March 28, 2015 Got a Hyde main and #1 from Kenny Fyfe 18 months ago, no complaints and extremely good service as always. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Steve Pope 243 Posted March 28, 2015 Share Posted March 28, 2015 A lot of the locally sold sails are cut offshore and finished here, some are cut and manufactured offshore and sold here, if you don't ask you will not know. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
DrWatson 375 Posted March 28, 2015 Share Posted March 28, 2015 I have looked hard at sail lofts in Asia, and although some sails are well made, I would still support a locally cut and stitched product, purely because I want to support local. If the local sailmakers lose our support, there will be a tipping point where the local lofts are no longer sustainable, and we no longer have the choice. Everything will come from China. Without the local competition or choice, after all sails start to come from Asia and the locals are gone, the cheaper asian product will escalate in price to be the same as or more expensive than the original locally made product, but will still be a cheap offshore quality. It's already happened with tools... I try very hard to prevent the loss of that consumer choice and harder still to help maintain the realistic price of good quality. 3 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
bushman 12 Posted March 29, 2015 Share Posted March 29, 2015 Willis Sails make your sails in their loft ............. any problems ..... just see them , no Problem 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
banaari 27 Posted March 29, 2015 Share Posted March 29, 2015 Willis Sails make your sails in their loft ............. any problems ..... just see them , no Problem +1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Marshy 30 Posted March 30, 2015 Share Posted March 30, 2015 Like DrWatson said, if we dont support local then local will close shop, making it a little hard for repairs or quick jobs etc. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
harrytom 642 Posted April 1, 2015 Author Share Posted April 1, 2015 my problem is a mainsail nz $2200 hyde $1200 3 seperate quotes Quote Link to post Share on other sites
DrWatson 375 Posted April 1, 2015 Share Posted April 1, 2015 That is a large difference. How long does it take to save the extra 1000? Just wondering. I know it's not easy. But it's not going to get easier unless we support each other. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Island Time 1,235 Posted April 1, 2015 Share Posted April 1, 2015 Be REALLY careful that Hyde are quoting on the same quality standard. Normally the difference is not that much. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Kestrahl 6 Posted April 1, 2015 Share Posted April 1, 2015 my problem is a mainsail nz $2200 hyde $1200 3 seperate quotes Are the quotes comparing the same sail, batten layout, reefs and cloth? You could assume all dacron's are similar in price but in actual fact some can be double the price per m to others. I know Hyde use Challange PC which is very low end. Talk to the NZ agent for Hyde - Fyfe Sails, ask him about different dacron's. The other problem is they won't ship full battens. But you could do a lot worse up here than Hyde! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
TimB 7 Posted April 1, 2015 Share Posted April 1, 2015 John Ruskin wrote the below quote in the early 1800's, it is still just as valid today (perhaps more so). “It's unwise to pay too much, but it's worse to pay too little. When you pay too much, you lose a little money - that's all. When you pay too little, you sometimes lose everything, because the thing you bought was incapable of doing the thing it was bought to do. The common law of business balance prohibits paying a little and getting a lot - it can't be done. If you deal with the lowest bidder, it is well to add something for the risk you run, and if you do that you will have enough to pay for something better.” Quote Link to post Share on other sites
harrytom 642 Posted April 2, 2015 Author Share Posted April 2, 2015 will investigate further,there is no rush Quote Link to post Share on other sites
harrytom 642 Posted February 18, 2017 Author Share Posted February 18, 2017 little bit of a delay but sails are there way finally,6/8 weeks,but got pushed back as they had to make 10 sets for some one design class asap.Hoping to be landed this weekend,so all going well midweek pick up .I can feel a sick day coming on. main with 2 full length battens and 2 1/2 battens lower down to reduce tension on leash?no 2 headsail without uv strip.Just means removing end of weekend but no biggie. On the nz agent front Kenny Fyfe is getting out and apparently his boys are doing shade sails,so went Brent Gilles?botany,he has all the various sample clothes and we settled on his recommendation for longish lasting cruising cloth with a bit of club/social racing.Contender cloth/dacron Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Kevin McCready 83 Posted February 22, 2017 Share Posted February 22, 2017 It would be nice to know if the overseas lofts paid their workers a living wage. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ScottiE 174 Posted February 22, 2017 Share Posted February 22, 2017 as opposed to a dying wage? They're alive aren't they? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
tuffyluffy 76 Posted February 22, 2017 Share Posted February 22, 2017 It would be nice to know if the overseas lofts paid their workers a living wage. Possibly better wages than the people who assembled the device you're typing on and who stitched the shirt you're wearing. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Kevin McCready 83 Posted February 22, 2017 Share Posted February 22, 2017 Scottie, the evidence shows that everyone is better off when workers get a living wage. Even the conservatives are now acknowledging that. Tuffy, your comment is nonsensical - two wrongs don't make a right. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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