wheels 544 Posted August 5, 2016 Share Posted August 5, 2016 Yes it is possible. But will need new axles, that will come with discs/ calipers. You will need brake line tubing run the length from axle to Tow hitch and you will need a hydraulic braking Tow hitch.You are in Blenheim right? Go to Bearing and Accessories on Nelson street and ask them what you need and they will quote you. Then you just need an engineer to cut off the old axles and fit the new.Only draw back will be cost. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
wheels 544 Posted August 5, 2016 Share Posted August 5, 2016 Ferrari, did you retrofit using existing axles? If yes, then that makes it much cheaper.Bearing and accessories are Trojan agents Damien. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Farrari 4 Posted August 5, 2016 Share Posted August 5, 2016 Yes, I was lucky enough to able to retrofit using the existing axles so it saved a bit of coin. It was still a reasonably expensive exercise although it did help I was able to get the parts through a mate at trade. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Abel Seaman 19 Posted August 5, 2016 Share Posted August 5, 2016 A few thoughts you Damien. I have a young780 on a 2 axle non braked trailer which i tow happily with my Ford Territory from Mapua as far as havelock and waikawa on occasions. I have towed it with my manual 2.5 litre forester to Kaiteriteri on rare occasions with no problems. Kaiteriteri ramp is quite flat and the only place i use my extension drawbar. Someone said a young 780 was a bit slow in an earlier post. Not so if the boat is rigged and sailed well. I can beat a Noelex 25 in light to medium winds but their greater ballast gives them the advantage in stronger winds. Glass over ply is a matter of care and maintenance. If you keep your boat dry it will last. Rainwater will kill it. Keep the Paint up and keep it covered. I have had some knockdowns where i swear the mast almost hit the water, but the boat popped up just fine with just a splash of water over the cockpit coamings. When you are competent and confident in your boat this will annoy you rather than scare you. However for novice family members it can put them off forever!!! For this reason alone you should buy the most stable boat you can and never hesitate to drop sail and motor when it gets a bit blowy. Get this right and you will have your family sailing with you. Get it wrong and you will be a solo sailor.... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Damienmumu 0 Posted August 5, 2016 Author Share Posted August 5, 2016 Yeap my point of getting a TS is that the family cannot be bothered sailing we could just motor around quietly or even in some cases leave the mast at home and cruise around simply. But ultimately I really want to sail but if getting the damily on the water means motoring around mainly why not?! Would you suggest that the young could still be an option. I have been sold the farr now but have say the hassle and potwntial costs related to the trailer makes me keep the young in the back of my mind... would you consider the young as very stable? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Theseus 1 Posted August 5, 2016 Share Posted August 5, 2016 I recently fitted brakes to my 25ft trailer yacht. I had been towing it around for 15 years with no problems and the cost and the maintenance troubles with brakes had put me off. It is 140km to where I usually sail on Manapouri and Te Anau and the trip has recently got more dangerous with the increase it the foreign self drive tourists. After a recent experience where I nearly tee boned a tourist that had not given way I bit the bullet. It cost me 3 grand but because of my old ball rims I had to replace both axials and 5 rims. We have windy gusty conditions on the lakes which I understand is similar to the sounds. The young trailer yachts all have a large sail area for their size which makes them less suitable for inexperienced sailers in our conditions. There is a reason why Noelex trailer yachts with their easily driven hulls and smaller sail areas are popular in the south Island. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Damienmumu 0 Posted August 6, 2016 Author Share Posted August 6, 2016 So yes farr is the ine no matter what... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Bobbybro. 0 Posted August 6, 2016 Share Posted August 6, 2016 If your handy and keen on bit of work the Dahl 780 on trade me (bounty hunter) in rotavagas is a very stable good sailing boat with good amount of room my mates dad use to tow it with a 3ltr commy or a 2ltr blue bird as 13 year olds me and my mates were let loose for a summer in it very forgiving boat tested its limits and never once was worried about it not sure about weight but there's lead to take out of the floor!!!! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Damienmumu 0 Posted August 6, 2016 Author Share Posted August 6, 2016 Thatvis a lot of work and as much as I'd keen to refurbish a yacht I am far from having time to do this... I am definitely looking for somwthing in good ready to sail. Cheers Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Abel Seaman 19 Posted August 7, 2016 Share Posted August 7, 2016 The young trailer yachts all have a large sail area for their size which makes them less suitable for inexperienced sailers in our conditions. There is a reason why Noelex trailer yachts with their easily driven hulls and smaller sail areas are popular in the south Island. To answer your earlier question Damien, as a Young 780 owner, I would actually agree 100% with Theseus. At the time i bought my 780, I couldn't stretch to a Noelex 25. Now i could and choose not to. I have however been sailing for many years and took care to ensure the reefing systems on my boat are well rigged and functional. As Theseus says, Youngs do have large sail areas so you need to be prepared to reef early and reef often. If you can stretch your finances a Noelex 25 would be ideal for your needs. They also seem to be holding their value better than any other TS or Keeler i am aware of. If the sailing thing doesn't work out then you have a boat that is re-sellable whereas many boats including my own seem to be worth almost nothing on the market. Good luck. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Damienmumu 0 Posted August 21, 2016 Author Share Posted August 21, 2016 This one seems a nice option: https://preview.trademe.co.nz/motors/trade-me-motors/boats-marine/yachts/trailersailer/1146458461 Not too sure if it is well equiped what more it would need. Outboard excluded so woul have to count this. Any thought? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Island Time 1,294 Posted August 21, 2016 Share Posted August 21, 2016 Trailer looks good, but no brakes. Hull looks good, but paint especially new paint, can hide a lot... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Damienmumu 0 Posted August 21, 2016 Author Share Posted August 21, 2016 So actually the one in Nelson seems best option. It may pay to be patient I guess... meanwhile I shoukd better get on board of someone's yacht at Waikawa Yacht Club to learn the ropes. Anybody had any thought of suggesting to do the Day Skipper course from Boating Eucation to get all the safety tips? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Island Time 1,294 Posted August 21, 2016 Share Posted August 21, 2016 Day skipper course is a good start. Won't teach you anything about sailing, but the basic "rules of the road" and pilotage. Iirc it's a pre requisite for the more advanced courses anyway ( could be wrong here, it's a *^%# long time since I did mine!) Good luck Quote Link to post Share on other sites
grant 44 Posted August 21, 2016 Share Posted August 21, 2016 Day skipper course is a good start. Won't teach you anything about sailing, but the basic "rules of the road" and pilotage. Iirc it's a pre requisite for the more advanced courses anyway ( could be wrong here, it's a *^%# long time since I did mine!) Good luck its not a pre-req for anything else. For pretty basic knowledge it s a good course, relatively quick and easy, Next one up is boatmaster, if you are thinking about doing the boatmaster then just do that, don't worry about Day skipper. Day skipper is enough to keep you out of trouble in reasonably confined and not too busy waters. a lot of insurance companies will give a discount if you have boat master, not sure about day skipper. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Damienmumu 0 Posted August 27, 2016 Author Share Posted August 27, 2016 Still on the hunt for a suitable Farr 6000. But meanwhile, to feed my thoughts since towing weight will always be a challenge I realised we have not talked of the idea of going a little small like a 17 or 18 foot long??? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Black Panther 1,767 Posted August 27, 2016 Share Posted August 27, 2016 http://www.jwboatdesigns.co.nz/plans/penguin/ 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Bobbybro. 0 Posted August 27, 2016 Share Posted August 27, 2016 Hay the one in mot is back on trade me I think Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Damienmumu 0 Posted August 27, 2016 Author Share Posted August 27, 2016 Yes that's right. Alloy trailer seems a plus. Apparently the rudder needs a coat paint, tidying up wiring but working, and by looking at photos the hull may need to coat paint too at some stage? $12k seems expensive especially also as the outboard is only 4hp... may jump and have a look at some stage. Ideally I would prefer to pay a little more and get one in excellent condition... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
philstar 62 Posted August 30, 2016 Share Posted August 30, 2016 get a ross 780 !!! They are the the best combination of speed and cruisability ever. This one is a great buy at 18k. I know the vendors and they have brought another boat so are pretty keen to sell her. http://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/boats-marine/yachts/trailersailer/auction-1148092080.htm Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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