Fish 0 Posted June 23, 2011 Share Posted June 23, 2011 That Pier 21 must be a dodgy spot. Someone's gone and stolen half the rudder of that nice new red boat Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Posted June 23, 2011 Share Posted June 23, 2011 jesus, how would that rudder handle a big round up with the kite on in 25kts Link to post Share on other sites
Fish 0 Posted June 23, 2011 Share Posted June 23, 2011 jesus, how would that rudder handle a big round up with the kite on in 25kts It wasn't you was it Jordan? Did you swipe the other half of that rudder to put on your mini? There is definately at least half of it missing Link to post Share on other sites
Marshy 30 Posted June 23, 2011 Share Posted June 23, 2011 Welcome to how foils should look fellas... Deep and skinny. None of this grader stuff. Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Saturday Night Special Posted June 23, 2011 Share Posted June 23, 2011 Obviously you did not see the foils on NZL:380 then they were larger than standard which gave the boat more bite these look to small Link to post Share on other sites
Fish 0 Posted June 23, 2011 Share Posted June 23, 2011 Welcome to how foils should look fellas... Deep and skinny. None of this grader stuff. Yeah yeah, faster faster leading edge and all that, still looks like someone took the tyres off a Suzuki Swift and put them on a V8 Commodore. It is a very high aspect ratio rudder Link to post Share on other sites
Kestrahl 6 Posted June 23, 2011 Share Posted June 23, 2011 From what I remember the rudder is also a looonng way forward, which means it doesn't need to be as big I guess. Link to post Share on other sites
Marshy 30 Posted June 23, 2011 Share Posted June 23, 2011 Fair to say Ray is no Pony, neither is Davie Norris, or the guys from R/P Yacht Design, or anyone else involved with the project so i cant imagine the foils are a problem to be honest. I think we will find the boat will perform very nicely. Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Rocket Posted June 23, 2011 Share Posted June 23, 2011 I wonder about small profile rudders and wheels. My experience is that small foils on the end of a tiller are fine but with a wheel it is harder to feel the rudder bite again post round-up. Prob why TP52s have tillers (don't they?) Link to post Share on other sites
Gappy 9 Posted June 23, 2011 Share Posted June 23, 2011 We started off small on the karma then went bigger just added some on and then chopped half of that back off again and it was only on the tip so the added area wasn't huge but man did it make a difference Link to post Share on other sites
SloopJohnB 322 Posted June 23, 2011 Share Posted June 23, 2011 Fair to say Ray is no Pony, neither is Davie Norris, or the guys from R/P Yacht Design, . A few years ago there were big mods required for a lot of R&P boats, some like complete new back ends. Link to post Share on other sites
Absolution 7 Posted June 23, 2011 Share Posted June 23, 2011 Fair to say Ray is no Pony, neither is Davie Norris, or the guys from R/P Yacht Design, . A few years ago there were big mods required for a lot of R&P boats, some like complete new back ends. I think it was Secret Men's Business 3 in Oz that was that was the real cock-up. It had the deck cut-off and a whole new hull built which is why its called Secret Men's Business 3.5 now. Link to post Share on other sites
Marshy 30 Posted June 24, 2011 Share Posted June 24, 2011 And Limit/Loki i think was the one SJB is alluding to, Considering how many boats they have done its not too bad, and they are trying stuff out which is great. Many other designers have had lots more failures and are still treated like gods? Link to post Share on other sites
Tubthumper 0 Posted June 24, 2011 Share Posted June 24, 2011 Loki/Limit were caught in time and adjusted during the build, the problem boats were Bella Mente and Alfa Junior, both started life at 69' then ended up at 72'. Ran got it right straight off the bat, JV design though. Link to post Share on other sites
Murky 1 Posted June 24, 2011 Author Share Posted June 24, 2011 It is a problem I would be very happy to have anyway - ironing out the wrinkles in a brand new campaign of that size and quality. With this one now wrapping up, are there any other race boats currently under construction for NZ owners for us to look forward to? I know there is that strip-planked Shaw boat that has appeared on here a couple of times but that is at the smaller end of the spectrum. Link to post Share on other sites
floatsome 0 Posted June 24, 2011 Share Posted June 24, 2011 Is Lloyd Stevenson building a new Georgia or was that just rumour? Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Posted June 24, 2011 Share Posted June 24, 2011 Shaw 5.5 getting chipped away at. Link to post Share on other sites
Murky 1 Posted June 24, 2011 Author Share Posted June 24, 2011 That's not to overlook the multis that are under construction/re-construction either e.g. Samin's and Tigre. Although they will not be reading this far, having been blinded by the lump of lead in the photo earlier in the thread. Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Posted June 24, 2011 Share Posted June 24, 2011 A little, probably highly sexy, one being constructed on Waiheke. And a 9.3mt all carbon beast with a floppy dangler. Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Saturday Night Special Posted June 24, 2011 Share Posted June 24, 2011 the big Cherub will be turned over in 8 weeks Link to post Share on other sites
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