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My whole family will sit down and watch sail GP together, including Miss 11 and Mr 9. Miss 11 will go find the pre race previews / video blogg thingies and we consume all media that Sail GP can produce. She keeps track of where and when the next event is and we look forward to a race weekend, checking time zones for what time the coverage will be live, etc. Unfortunately Sail GP is taking a break while the AC is on, so we tried watching some the other day. The onwater graphics don't even tell you anything about the wind. Not which way it's going, nor its strength or speed. We watched

So far all the excitement is non-racing related. Sir Ben getting mugged, ETNZ dropping the boat, and then the most exciting on water aspect, lightening on the course...

No, But strangely I've been on a site where the crane driver turned up basically still pissed from the night before, and his work mates dobbed him in before he could even get in his cab. Funny how the people that are at risk of having the sky fall on their heads take a keen interest in the health and wellbeing (or otherwise fitness for work) of the one that holds heavy objects up in the sky.

Reading the official statement on the AC website, sounds like it was the wire, as in the crane lifting wire. The crane is supplied by a third party and is operated by ETNZ staff, but that a representative of the crane supplier was going to have a meeting with ETNZ. Being the wire, there is of course questions around sabotage. My first thought was that, surely security around getting into the compound would be high. If a bad actor got into the compound, wouldn't you just go and bugger with the boat itself? I'm assuming it is the very boring and less newsworthy poor maintenance.

I haven't actually done that yet, as have a few jobs ahead of it, but the two options my gasfitter gave me was A), a proper grommet, or B.) any kind of sealant I want, as in Silicon, Dowsil etc.

It gets a bit murky. If you have a single appliance you can use the flexible gas hose, available from Burnsco at $12/m or from the gas fitter at $4/m. (AS/NZS1561 class C by memory) You have to protect it from chafe at all points, so anywhere it does anything, like go through a bulkhead, you put it in some cable duct (the black plastic flexibly one, not rigid PVC). If you have a 'complex' system as defined by the regs, then you need copper pipe. That is a system with more than one appliance. The copper pipe needs a different style of protection at bulkheads. As my system is 'simple'

This. All the explosions, fires and deaths I've heard of have been from portable gas appliances. Either those old portable LPG heaters, or butane stoves used in confined spaces, like tents.

Yes, it goes bottle, solenoid, regulator. BUT, technically (legally) you aren't able to replace the solenoid yourself. You need to get a certified gas fitter to do it, and pay the $1,000 to re-issue the gas certificate. It is questionable if you require a solenoid for safety purposes. Some gas fitters say you don't, some say you do. That is with respect to having two gas sniffers interlinked with a solenoid. Of course if you want want so you don't have to physically go to the gas locker to turn the gas off, then knock yourself out. Oh, and if any other part of your system isn't

No, it's not a clear comparison, you are correct. BUT, this Superyacht (with the tallest mast in the world) couldn't dip it's mast head in the water and recover, where as any boat in NZ that meets Cat 5 (and Cat 3) can. It appears that the result of that is the boat is 50m under water, its wealthy owner and his daughter are dead, along with several others. Noting of course that what I am saying is completely uneducated assumptions on the interweb. I guess you could say its just like any cruise ship, or other large commercial ship. They can't roll to 90 degs and recover either. T

I think this is going to be key to the skipper not being charged / getting off. From that article posted above by the previous skipper, it sounds like they have a stability manual for all scenario's, like exactly what sails to have up in what wind strength. I assume much like how most of us know when we need to reef the main, and that we can use the number 1 jib up to X knots, the blade jib up to Y knots, and that you can't (or at least shouldn't) put the A2 up if its blowing dogs of chains, etc. Being a 460 tonne yacht, instead of just letting the crew see what she can handle, the d

Wow. That is a sailing video worth watching.

I think the stability requirements are the classification society requirements, not the requirements as per the laws of physics to keep it afloat. I know it is only a song, but it does remind me of the esteemed and highly regarded data by one Mr Frederick Dagg, that the boat met the minimum crewing requirements, of one, and had very stringent design and materials requirements. No cardboard. No cardboard derivatives... Jokes aside, the only plausible explanation I can think of for a boat like that sinking in a water spout is that it was laid flat, exceeded it's AVS and capsized

I read that it went down bow first. What we can conclude from this is there is an even chance that your sources is right and my source is wrong, or: Your source is wrong and my source is right.

You wouldn't be implying MSM is any more reliable than FB? That particular weather forecaster, Lowinski, also made statements that all the passengers should have been dragged out of bed at 4am, put in Lifejackets and made to stand in the rain, as a safety precaution. Not sure what qualifies a weather forecaster to make such statements, other than a PhD in Hindsight. PS, it is curious to note that an increasing majority of MSM stories and leads are now based off information X'ed on X. The rest of MSM content appears to be AI produced now. I do understand the mirth at 'sources on

You mean, like Sail GP?

If it is leaking air, you can get a product you put inside the tubes and it self seals all the leaks. I think Sailors sell it. It is an Merican product. Alternatively, there are loads of the same product for bicycles. Smaller quantities but loads cheaper, and stocked by a wide array of bicycle shops. I had a good look into it but never used it, having managed to find a pin-hole leak and patch it. If you are just worried about the exterior appearance of the tubes, I don't think there is anything you can do about that, accept sew chaps for the boat.

Def not a seaworthy vessel IT, if it can't make NZ Cat 5.

Absolutely Aardvark. I understand where Rats is coming from too, it is a bit of a first world problem having your superyacht sink, especially in contrast to so many of the world's humanitarian issues. The part I am interested in is the how bit, which is relevant to a sailing forum, I'm hoping. It is certainly an intriguing story that the guy died on his sinking superyacht whilst celebrating winning a huge fraud trail on said superyacht with his lawyers and supporters, the day after his co accused got killed being hit by a car. That is just red meat for the MSM and click-baiting platf

Possibly cause we know how the poor brown people are dieing, just no one gives a sh*t. Strewth, half of England is throwing bricks at Cops to stop them being allowed to live next door. We also know exactly how over 40,000 have died in Palestine, but for some strange reason the whole western world is falling over themselves to supply more weapons so some more can be killed. For some reason no-one wants to talk about that either, I suspect I'll be torn a new one for daring to even mention the genocide, but each to their own. There is a high degree of mystery and curiosity as to how a 1

Bayesian AVS with the keel up is 73deg, but keel down doesn't help much, AVS 88deg. Contrast, That wouldn't even get YNZ Cat 5. Refer YNZ safety regulations: "Limit of Positive Stability" Cat3 - 100deg Cat4 - 95 deg Cat5 - 95 deg, And: 6.02(k) d: For yachts complying with Category 4 and 5, it may be demonstrated that compliance is achieved by demonstrating a physical pulldown test in which the masthead shall be pulled down until it touches the surface of the water. The yacht will maintain a positive righting moment at all times during t

The only (logical) explanation I can think of is if they left the toy garage doors open overnight. If they did do that, then the captain and crew will be up for legit criticism. Personally, I can't image a boat doing that, not with 10 crew, it's not like they don't have enough people to tidy the toys up properly, oh, and noting from that article and vid posted above, they moved out to that anchorage about 10pm local time, so not like they had a day playing at anchor and simply didn't get around to closing the garage doors. They only other explanation is this was straight out just an Act o

I would argue that leaving the keel up at anchor should not result in a 180ft boat sinking in 2minutes flat. If that was the primary cause, then there is a fundamental design flaw, and a fundamental certification flaw. The keel is primarily designed to provide righting moment for sailing, like with the sails up. The boat should be inherently safe with the keel in either position. That said, I'm sure the insurance companies will be crawling all over this, and if the keel was up, the insurance co's lawyers will be asking why, given it was parked in 50m of water. The Captain will need

In a past life I was up the back of the Amazon on a wee adventure. After having a nice cool and freshening swim in the river (The Rio Negro), our guide asked if we wanted to go Piranha fishing for the rest of the afternoon. We were a little perplexed, as there was only one river around that we knew of, the one we were just swimming in... It did explain why the guide discretely checked with the ladies of the group that they weren't at 'that time of the month' before going swimming though. In hindsight he did also check none of us had grazes or cuts that might bleed when we were swimmi

So, did you go swimming?

I can't find the name of that boat, but I remember reading about it. Or at least one very similar. If it is the one I was thinking of, it was a recently restored classic, or something notable anyway, sunk tied up to the quay. Was wanting to find the details to see if it was sunk due to weather or some other sort of random problem. You can see the masts sticking out on street view...