Adrianp 35 Posted October 28, 2020 Report Share Posted October 28, 2020 1 hour ago, DrWatson said: Who won the cockle shell hero trophy this year? Used to go to the smallest boat to finish. Be a bit embarrassing to walk away with that trophy even though you were sailing a 35footer, or a 40... Cockleshell Trophy went to the 10m Cat Exodus https://www.givencats.com/q_getboataspect.cfm?id=9 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Adrianp 35 Posted October 28, 2020 Report Share Posted October 28, 2020 Quote Who would have thought we’d see less than 20 boats make the finish, and an intrepid fleet of the same size slogging it out until the bitter end at 3pm Saturday? It’s 2020’s favourite expression: unprecedented, and a test of the fine print in the Sailing Instructions that nobody has paid much attention to, until now. For those who continued racing until 3pm, you “will be eligible for separate prizes which may be awarded if finishing in this manner”. We know some of you are feeling the prizegiving didn’t acknowledge the efforts that the on-water finishers put in, and we agree. We will be honouring the clause above and rest assured that since Saturday, we have been pivoting (the other favourite 2020 word) to create a solution to reward you for your hard work. Stay tuned, we will announce how, when and where shortly. The NZMYC committee, organizers of the PIC Coastal Classic, have only admiration for the perseverance shown on the water in all divisions. The race saw a true display of sportsmanship and commitment to the race from those who finished in Russell, finished on the water, or decided to retire early only because they knew they couldn’t make it in time. To every weekend warrior who put months of preparation into this important event on NZ’s sailing calendar, you are the lifeblood of the PIC Coastal Classic. We are impressed at how many of you turned up for the prizegiving and danced until closing time at the afterparty. You are an inspiring lot, and we reckon if it weren’t for the light winds, this would have been our best race yet. Thanks for your continued support of the race, and we hope to have you back in 2021! - Greer Houston, New Zealand Multihull Yacht Club Commodore Ed 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
waikiore 62 Posted October 28, 2020 Report Share Posted October 28, 2020 So from this little discussion I take leave the dates and current start times-it works for most. Possibly allow finishers up till 18.30 on the Saturday -that would also work for everyone -except perhaps the poor sods on finish boat duty. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ex Elly 51 Posted October 29, 2020 Report Share Posted October 29, 2020 On a normal year most boats would have been in well before 3pm. This year 16 finished before 1500, and 21 finished after that. If the finish boat could have stayed there for another hour or two, then most of those boats would have got proper finish times. CarpeDiem 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Deep Purple 218 Posted October 29, 2020 Report Share Posted October 29, 2020 (edited) Actually any boat still racing at 3pm will be awarded a place, just not a time. That applies if the boat hasn’t even cleared Rodney. So reading that, a boat may still win line honours even if no boats in that division finish within the time limit. Edited October 29, 2020 by Deep Purple Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Fish 595 Posted October 29, 2020 Report Share Posted October 29, 2020 I'm just getting my head around winning line honours without crossing the line. But there is a concept there. Its like a Mark Foy race in reverse. The boat furtherest up the race course at the cut off time wins. So the objective is to travel as far as possible in a set time, rather than cover a set distance as fast as possible. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
DrWatson 222 Posted October 29, 2020 Author Report Share Posted October 29, 2020 34 minutes ago, Deep Purple said: Actually any boat still racing at 3pm will be awarded a place, just not a time. That applies if the boat hasn’t even cleared Rodney. So reading that, a boat may still win line honours even if no boats in that division finish within the time limit. Yes I saw that, but there are prizes put up by sponsors for handicap Positions, what happens to the prizes? it entirely conceivable that in a division where three boats had crossed the line, a boat that finished a number of hours after the shutoff, could easily topple one of those three for a podium position on handicap and therefore a prize - ie something of value. In such a situation it might seem unfair and a deliberate attempt to keep the slower boats out of the prizes despite the race officially being run under a handicap system. I assume that as prizes are often valued at over 50 bucks the giving of prizes needs to occur in a transparent manner? Is there any scrutiny? Is $50 the limit? (That’s what it is for office sweepstakes, no? Same set of rules?) Quote Link to post Share on other sites
DrWatson 222 Posted October 29, 2020 Author Report Share Posted October 29, 2020 25 minutes ago, Fish said: So the objective is to travel as far as possible in a set time, rather than cover a set distance as fast as possible. If no boat in a division crossed the line you could also do handicap prizes unter the same method. Would make it super tactical. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ex Elly 51 Posted November 1, 2020 Report Share Posted November 1, 2020 Some good video and discussion of Champosa's grounding in this video at 7:50. erice 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
waikiore 62 Posted November 8, 2020 Report Share Posted November 8, 2020 No Mention of Champosa motoring to get off Narrow neck - it is on video from those on North Head. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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