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Anyone here have a Boat Repainted in Fiji, how did that go for you?


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Depends how fussy you want to be. Nobody paints a house the way a car is painted. I painted a 10 m tri on a beach in a day with an airless spray . Not as good a result as you want though. More of a 10 foot finish but still good protection. With the right paint somebody with a little skill could do a great job without spraying and probably without removing fittings either.   2 guys with a week of good weather in a yard ?  Maybe try norsand in whangarei for an estimate.   

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We had out topsides painted with brush and tipping. You need to have frigging amazing eye site and be sitting in your dinghy 1 foot away staring at the hull to see its not a spray finish.

Paying a lot of $$$ to improve the look of the finish form 5 ft to 1 foot...

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1 hour ago, Fish said:

We had out topsides painted with brush and tipping. You need to have frigging amazing eye site and be sitting in your dinghy 1 foot away staring at the hull to see its not a spray finish.

Paying a lot of $$$ to improve the look of the finish form 5 ft to 1 foot...

I challenge anyone to pick the difference between ours and a sprayed boat.  Interesting it took 3 to 5 days to look its best

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On 3/07/2021 at 11:48 AM, Island Time said:

Hibiscus Marine Coatings are reasonable. They quoted 25k for Island Time. I’ve had other quotes up to 80 odd.

it is a lot of work to do properly. Haul out is a big issue. To be sure of a time frame, a shed is needed, or a frame and wrap. Unless you can find a waterfront property with suitable beach, and friendly owner (with a tractor), build a trailer, and do it all yourself (maybe hire a painter if spraying, just to paint after prep is done) it will be difficult to do on a budget.

Hibiscus can't get our boat hauled because our beam is 8.02 meters

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On 3/07/2021 at 8:46 PM, marinheiro said:

given that you are almost painting 3 boats  the $47k quote is not unreasonable. 

Not really, we are very low freeboard, the amas are more like painting a 10 meter canoe than a 10 meter monohull. They also taper to virtually nothing at the transom  I would estimate 1/3 the surface area? So 1/3 +1/3 + 1 = 1-2/3 a normal 40' mono with very low freeboard. Catamaran tower above us when they pull alongside!

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9 hours ago, raz88 said:

If you're looking at soon I'd be a bit wary of covid associated risks. Could easily end up with things changing in Fiji, a lockdown blowing out time frames, border closures making it not possible to come and go etc. 

We would wait at least until next September, could wait longer...

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15 minutes ago, 2flit said:

Not really, we are very low freeboard, the amas are more like painting a 10 meter canoe than a 10 meter monohull. They also taper to virtually nothing at the transom  I would estimate 1/3 the surface area? So 1/3 +1/3 + 1 = 1-2/3 a normal 40' mono with very low freeboard. Catamaran tower above us when they pull alongside!

actually the beams would add another 1/3.... so 2X the area of a low freeboard mono-hull

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We had our yacht repainted at Vuda point, total cowboys, made an almighty mess which all had to be stripped off before starting again somewhere else. It was two months of horrible work with a sander to get it all off. These were supposedly Vuda point's "recommended contractors" so I made the mistake of trusting them to get on with it while I was away for a few days. Ended up with paint on decks, fittings, windows and even some of the places that were supposed to be painted (but just one very thick coat without any of the necessary sanding or primers first!). The job was contracted to be sprayed but most of it was slapped on with big brush marks in it.

Marina manager wasn't much help, he said that company would be banned from working at the marina again but also said they'd probably come back under another name. At the time they were called "Peter's works". I had read really good reviews of a boat painter called Peter at Vuda but apparently my big mistake was that there are two guys called Peter and I had chosen the wrong one .... Since he was a recommended contractor of the marina and I got his card from them, I thought I was safe.

In Fiji there's no chance of getting a refund or getting anything put right of course. At least I had only paid half up front.

The moral of the story is don't risk it, paint can go so badly wrong in so many ways that you need to go to a professional in NZ, I learnt that the hard way.

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Just now, 2flit said:

actually the beams would add another 1/3.... so 2X the area of a low freeboard mono-hull

...and I repainted the non-skid in 2017 with 2-part AlexSeal poly so all the non-skid is not quoted...

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Just now, 2flit said:

We would wait at least until next September, could wait longer...

I was just reading a transcript of an interview with Rob fyfe, ex ceo of Air nz and now on the board of air canada. He's suggesting the airlines expect air travel to be impacted for another 5 years. 

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5 minutes ago, syohana said:

We had our yacht repainted at Vuda point, total cowboys, made an almighty mess which all had to be stripped off before starting again somewhere else. It was two months of horrible work with a sander to get it all off. These were supposedly Vuda point's "recommended contractors" so I made the mistake of trusting them to get on with it while I was away for a few days. Ended up with paint on decks, fittings, windows and even some of the places that were supposed to be painted (but just one very thick coat without any of the necessary sanding or primers first!). The job was contracted to be sprayed but most of it was slapped on with big brush marks in it.

Marina manager wasn't much help, he said that company would be banned from working at the marina again but also said they'd probably come back under another name. At the time they were called "Peter's works". I had read really good reviews of a boat painter called Peter at Vuda but apparently my big mistake was that there are two guys called Peter and I had chosen the wrong one .... Since he was a recommended contractor of the marina and I got his card from them, I thought I was safe.

In Fiji there's no chance of getting a refund or getting anything put right of course. At least I had only paid half up front.

The moral of the story is don't risk it, paint can go so badly wrong in so many ways that you need to go to a professional in NZ, I learnt that the hard way.

Thanks for sharing... this is why I am trying to do our due diligence here and locate an individual painter reference by accurate name and ID.  I am very hopeful that locating a current good reference in Fiji is possible, or certainly worth trying to do.

Everyone here has been very helpful, but we haven't got 'that name' yet. 

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On 4/07/2021 at 6:33 AM, Frank said:

 you seem to be  acknowledging the scale of the job in terms of time, planning, materials and skill . So bundling all that up 45K seems remarkable value for money, just be careful you don't go too cheap its an investment for the next decade. 

not really... it's all the exposure to solvents, primers, constant sanding on my compromised overhead reach, that I'm not interested in repeating.  I've done this work before alone on a 37 foot mono-hull and also a 21 footer. The 21' boat was way more work because of the gelcoat failure. Our hull is in good and fair enough shape that I don't think the time commitment is in the 47K range. 

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3 hours ago, 2flit said:

Can't truck an 8 meter wide boat, its a shame!

I'll give Shawn a call

Are you sure? Houses are moved all over the place all the time. It needs to be done at night, and with a specialist company, but it is fairly straight forward. Basically a truck with a hydraulic deck and a pilot vehicle. A phone call or two to the appropriate company would tell you if it is viable or not. If boat movers say no, I'd try house movers under google.

Sheds and work spaces at marinas are at a premium and priced accordingly. More so with the footprint of your tri, taking up the shed space of 2 regular boats. I expect it is the cost of the shed that is blowing out your costs, no so much the actual labour and painting. If you could get your boat into suitable accomodation in an industrial or rural location the project costs may become more reasonable. It will be a trade off of course, cost of transport v cost of a shed. 

There are also a number of lesser known haul out places scattered around that may be more suitable for your job. They are a little more effort to track down and arrange, but given the dollars involved may be worth it.

If you get a mobile painter onboard like Shaun Rowe it may work. At the least, Shaun could give you a budget estimate for the work on the basis you provide the shed. At the least it would give you a better understanding of the build up of some of these big quotes you are getting.

Sorry, I know this isn't anything about Fiji. I don't know anything about Fiji other than they have the plague...

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18 minutes ago, Fish said:

Are you sure? Houses are moved all over the place all the time. It needs to be done at night, and with a specialist company, but it is fairly straight forward. Basically a truck with a hydraulic deck and a pilot vehicle. A phone call or two to the appropriate company would tell you if it is viable or not. If boat movers say no, I'd try house movers under google.

 

NZTA allows a max width of 11 m, so 8m is no problem. The tri would sit on a standard low loader with a cradle. Need all the relevant permits, pilot vehicles, permissible routes etc but nothing that has not been done 000's times before.

I am sure Pete at Boat Haulage would have all the answers, and similarly any of the house movers. I know of a 14m x 7m cat moved from the back of Hunua to Maraetai by a house mover without a problem. 

 

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On 5/07/2021 at 10:07 AM, ex TL systems said:

Depends how fussy you want to be. 

Maybe try norsand in whangarei for an estimate.   

Trying them now... we do want a high quality job without runs or brush marks. But what is most important is not 'gloss' and car like paint, but longevity is very important. We absolutely need this job to last ten year+  (or current AWL Grip paint went 21 years)

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13 hours ago, Fish said:

Are you sure? Houses are moved all over the place all the time.

I would not let a house mover touch our boat with a 10 meter pole! 

We've had a scissor lift move the boat from the boat ramp at Opua Marina to the boat yard. The experienced fellow (JJ) flexed our hull enough that a scupperway through the integrated water tanks cracked. The  entirety of the Starboard water tank leaked out into the bilge. We had to pull things apart and glass it back together. That wasn't that  hard to do... but the idea of going down the road is not something I am wiling have done to it after that experience. The movers accept no responsibility any damages; as per the contract they made us sign.

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8 minutes ago, Black Panther said:

There is a yard further up ghe waiting river that hauls using a mobile crane. Sorry don't remember the name. Seems the harlots and handstand are a bigger issue than painting 

That is Fusion Marine at Manga Rd Silverdale. Use the crane to tow a trailer

I do not know who owns it, but there is also the big shed on the north side of the Weiti River where Jon Douglas built the 2 big Roger Hill cats (Kotuku and Cation) 

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