waikiore 477 Posted July 14, 2021 Share Posted July 14, 2021 Having always worked in the Auckland based marine industry, I wish to refute Foggs claims but find that I can not. In fact personal experience backs them up, and further to that having worked for some of these larger operators I am shocked how little time or effort was put into technical or on the job training, these are the same ones (people) working on the superyachts, luckily many of the superyacht 'engineers' these days only seem to know how to pick up a phone. Back when I started all marine companies-be they chandlers sailmakers riggers engineers had a system of putting the newbies under the wing of an experienced hand, a sort of pastoral care if you like, this had two benefits - training on the job and avoiding cock ups for the company. It seems this approach has been thrown out of late and first week employees are being sent to multi million dollar vessels to guess their way through jobs, whilst being billed out as top barristers! 1 1 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
marinheiro 364 Posted July 14, 2021 Share Posted July 14, 2021 10 minutes ago, waikiore said: Back when I started all marine companies-be they chandlers sailmakers riggers engineers had a system of putting the newbies under the wing of an experienced hand, a sort of pastoral care if you like, this had two benefits - training on the job and avoiding cock ups for the company. That was the long proven way of training young people for a profession or trade right back to the time of druids and witch doctors 😁. Remember the old 8,000-9,000hr apprenticeship system where at the end of their time a boatbuilder could build a boat from lofting to final fitout and similarly for a chippy to almost build a complete house (except for brickwork/roofing/electrics and plumbing). Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Fogg 427 Posted July 14, 2021 Share Posted July 14, 2021 The term 'Apprenticeship" seems to have fallen out of fashion. But whatever they want to call it they should be following the practice. It's only common sense (another lost concept). And in reality many other industries are still operating this hierarchical (oops - another dirty word) model to train newcomers and avoid screw-ups. Even if they don't call it an apprenticeship. And I'm grateful such a model exists. It makes me feel better when I talk to people about something important e.g. a doctor or a lawyer or a car mechanic. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Dagwood 69 Posted July 14, 2021 Share Posted July 14, 2021 1 hour ago, waikiore said: a system of putting the newbies under the wing of an experienced hand, a sort of pastoral care if you like, this had two benefits - training on the job and avoiding cock ups for the company. Our eldest is nearing the end of his apprenticeship (Electrical) and this is how he's spent most of his time and it shows - I was quietly impressed when he habitually pulled out a small bubble stick to verify a light switch he had just reinstalled was plumb after checking something minor at home. I think the issue might be challenged by the attitude and work ethic he's described of some of his peers. That and the fact that the older hand has limited means to correct said attitude and behaviour. I couldn't handle 8 hours with a feckless handbrake 5 days a week... 1 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
JohnJ42 0 Posted July 17, 2022 Share Posted July 17, 2022 Sold. Next Wednesday will be the last day. End of an era Quote Link to post Share on other sites
dutyfree 170 Posted July 25, 2022 Share Posted July 25, 2022 https://www.nzherald.co.nz/business/westhavens-pier-21-sold-marina-dry-stack-offices-hospitality-snapped-up-in-12ha-purchase/4N2GQ3K4ZKHTNGW6ZCPJVAWSJI/ to become part of an adjacent retirement village Quote Link to post Share on other sites
straycat 7 Posted July 26, 2022 Share Posted July 26, 2022 Once again the average boatie is getting pushed away from an area created for them in the first place. I wonder if Westhaven boat owners can take the over the lease. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Terry B 73 Posted July 26, 2022 Share Posted July 26, 2022 Unclear from the article EXACTLY what they're doing as down towards the bottom it says: Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Ex Machina 390 Posted July 26, 2022 Share Posted July 26, 2022 sh*t imagine a retirement village with a marina ….I bet a few people would live there well before retirement age Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Psyche 794 Posted July 27, 2022 Share Posted July 27, 2022 6 hours ago, Ex Machina said: sh*t imagine a retirement village with a marina ….I bet a few people would live there well before retirement age 😂 I think you are describing Westhaven 1 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
waikiore 477 Posted July 27, 2022 Share Posted July 27, 2022 mmmm there is a lot of grey hair about, and would be double if the girls went au naturel Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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