aardvarkash10 1,065 Posted March 7, 2023 Share Posted March 7, 2023 SO doesn't have any exterior brightwork and I'm keen to keep it to a minimum, but the handrails seem like an easy small amount to add a bit of bling look without huge ongoing effort. Also easy to remove for refinishing as required. I'm proposing to sand, evadure, then probably single pack clear coat. I'm agnostic as to product brand, brushed not sprayed. Feedback from the hive please. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
chariot 244 Posted March 7, 2023 Share Posted March 7, 2023 I used Quila stain. Looks good and lasted 2 years. No sanding, just put it straight on and it looks great. When you need to recoat in a couple of years there is no prep work, just put it straight on. Obviously you would have to sound for first coat. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
aardvarkash10 1,065 Posted March 7, 2023 Author Share Posted March 7, 2023 That's easy! I do a lot of interior furniture stuff and use oils and waxes. Also easy to care for but the environment is more benign Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Cameron 93 Posted March 7, 2023 Share Posted March 7, 2023 https://www.smartmarine.co.nz/product/28824/awlwood-j3890-gloss-varnish-946ml/30784 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
LBD 169 Posted March 7, 2023 Share Posted March 7, 2023 59 minutes ago, Cameron said: https://www.smartmarine.co.nz/product/28824/awlwood-j3890-gloss-varnish-946ml/30784 just how good is it from your experience? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Cameron 93 Posted March 7, 2023 Share Posted March 7, 2023 What I have used it for is too recent to give feedback on longitivtiy but I did a fair amount of research and it seems to be the go to product for the classic yachts and launch's. Seems to last a lot longer than regular varnish. Used to be called Uroxsys until Awlcraft took it over. https://www.uroxsys.co.nz/marine.htm 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Corella 3 Posted March 8, 2023 Share Posted March 8, 2023 6 hours ago, LBD said: just how good is it from your experience? Awlwood MA is much superior to traditional varnishes, from my tests and experience easily lasts twice as long. The extra cost is easily worth it. Follow the instructions closely (use one of the primers, disposable foam brushes, etc). Also can easily do 2-3 coats/day in summer. No contest for external varnish, IMO. 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Terry B 73 Posted March 8, 2023 Share Posted March 8, 2023 I'd agree with Corella - IF the option is varnish vs Awlgrip. But for just handrails which are a small area and easily up kept every other year I'd go for an oil or a stain. Something Bunnings have that is used for decks for instance. Really easy to apply, easy to clean when re application is needed. Plus (assuming the rails are teak) there's plenty of easy to use once-every-year teak products at Burnsco etc that also have the benefit of CHEAP (in comparison to varnishes/Awlgrip etc). But - if you want the full GLOSSY - go for Awlgrip My 2 cents worth............... :) 1 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
LBD 169 Posted March 8, 2023 Share Posted March 8, 2023 1 hour ago, Corella said: Awlwood MA is much superior to traditional varnishes, from my tests and experience easily lasts twice as long. The extra cost is easily worth it. Follow the instructions closely (use one of the primers, disposable foam brushes, etc). Also can easily do 2-3 coats/day in summer. No contest for external varnish, IMO. Have put one litre primer and two litres topcoat on the shopping list... I have a bit of effort ahead of me on some bright work that warrants several coats of a single pack varnish. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
waikiore 440 Posted March 9, 2023 Share Posted March 9, 2023 The awlwood does seem to last well, but at the cost I prefer to do a coat of West then seven of good varnish, very easy to touch up and I have it on the shelf. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
aardvarkash10 1,065 Posted March 9, 2023 Author Share Posted March 9, 2023 Ok well that's an improvement. We went the oil based stain way. Yes, there is still some white topcoat visible in the grain, but I wasn't going to sand away 0.5mm of timber all around for the sake of an imperfection you can't see from 3m away. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
aardvarkash10 1,065 Posted March 12, 2023 Author Share Posted March 12, 2023 We are done. I'm calling the residual white paint patina. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
chariot 244 Posted March 12, 2023 Share Posted March 12, 2023 I found using a stain that next time I didn't need to sand back, just went straight over the top and it was fine. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
aardvarkash10 1,065 Posted March 12, 2023 Author Share Posted March 12, 2023 7 minutes ago, chariot said: I found using a stain that next time I didn't need to sand back, just went straight over the top and it was fine. Thanks for the tip. How often do you recoat? I'm just rubbing it on using a Scotch Brite pad.... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
chariot 244 Posted March 12, 2023 Share Posted March 12, 2023 I used a hardwood stain and applied with a brush. Found it lasted 2 years. I just masked up the deck and did it all in place. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
aardvarkash10 1,065 Posted March 14, 2023 Author Share Posted March 14, 2023 Left them in the rain on Sunday. The beading looks like the oil stain and wax is working. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Lindsay 33 Posted March 15, 2023 Share Posted March 15, 2023 Too late into this thread, sorry, and the stain you’ve used looks great. But for others considering this I can recommend Sikkens Cetol HLSe Teak. Easy to apply and touch up each year while tucked up in a snug anchorage. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
BNG 53 Posted March 15, 2023 Share Posted March 15, 2023 Crikey Lindsay, you are a stuntman posting that! You might get lambasted by the anti stinkpot brigade even tho you might be an old stick and rag man with a healthy interest in all things marine! Back on topic.... I have a lot of brightwork. I went oil for the first 4 years then gave it away. Would get 9 months looking good then not so good. Went Awlcraft system 5 years ago and would never go back. Great product. More time on the water with my silent solar setup and my generator sound effect. Just in case.. 2 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
LBD 169 Posted March 15, 2023 Share Posted March 15, 2023 2 hours ago, BNG said: Crikey Lindsay, you are a stuntman posting that! You might get lambasted by the anti stinkpot brigade even tho you might be an old stick and rag man with a healthy interest in all things marine! Back on topic.... I have a lot of brightwork. I went oil for the first 4 years then gave it away. Would get 9 months looking good then not so good. Went Awlcraft system 5 years ago and would never go back. Great product. More time on the water with my silent solar setup and my generator sound effect. Just in case.. Good to hear... just bought a supply of awlgrip primer and gloss today... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Sail Rock 30 Posted March 24, 2023 Share Posted March 24, 2023 On 15/03/2023 at 8:36 PM, Lindsay said: Too late into this thread, sorry, and the stain you’ve used looks great. But for others considering this I can recommend Sikkens Cetol HLSe Teak. Easy to apply and touch up each year while tucked up in a snug anchorage. I also use the Sikkens product on coachroof handrails 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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