Psyche 528 Posted June 5 Share Posted June 5 Go to the YNZ site and it eventually leads to MPI See weed, chuck it straight back (updated February 2023) [PDF, 5.3 MB] Caulerpa identification guide (February 2023) [PDF, 8.1 MB] See weed, chuck it straight back – Summer campaign flyer [PDF, 2.9 MB] Caulerpa brachypus and the Controlled Area Notice at Great Barrier Island [PDF, 2.5 MB] Leaflet on Caulerpa brachypus and the Controlled Area Notice at Great Barrier Island [PDF, 4.2 MB] Caulerpa – Great Barrier Island biosecurity response [PDF, 943 KB] Caulerpa parvifolia and Caulerpa brachypus fact sheet 2022 [PDF, 342 KB] Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Ex Machina 339 Posted June 5 Share Posted June 5 6 minutes ago, K4309 said: That is my point. But aren't they only in charge of Olympic medals? I guess I was using 'the lowest form of wit' to highlight the shortcommings of YNZ. Given the existential threat to hardstands and haulout facilities nationally, AYBA are doing the heavy lifting on that in Auckland, and they get something like $3.56 in my annual club subs, while YNZ get something like $40 or $50. Entirely ineffective organisation with a 'job for life' CEO. I should’ve used purple font . Our modest club pays just shy of 10k PA in YNZ affiliation fees and only 3-4 race boat boat owners would be affected if we didn’t pay that . The youth sailing would lose whatever support is on call but even then they do superbly with minimal input from YNZ 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
K4309 144 Posted June 5 Share Posted June 5 6 minutes ago, Psyche said: Go to the YNZ site and it eventually leads to MPI See weed, chuck it straight back (updated February 2023) [PDF, 5.3 MB] Caulerpa identification guide (February 2023) [PDF, 8.1 MB] See weed, chuck it straight back – Summer campaign flyer [PDF, 2.9 MB] Caulerpa brachypus and the Controlled Area Notice at Great Barrier Island [PDF, 2.5 MB] Leaflet on Caulerpa brachypus and the Controlled Area Notice at Great Barrier Island [PDF, 4.2 MB] Caulerpa – Great Barrier Island biosecurity response [PDF, 943 KB] Caulerpa parvifolia and Caulerpa brachypus fact sheet 2022 [PDF, 342 KB] That is a very good example of the basic issue with YNZ Psyche (at the risk of getting political). They appear super capable with comms specialists. A weekly / fortnightly news-email with so many stories to read. But no actual advocacy. In your example, they have loads of content, but all from someone else. Given their national status as representing boaties, I would like / expect them to release a Public Statement saying: 1) There is no evidence boaties have spread caulerpa (cause there is no evidence, it is just a theory) 2) It is just as likely it is from the aquarium trade, and 3) Publicly challenge the logic of an anchoring ban, on the basis the Omakiwi material has clearly been there undetected for a considerable time (MPI's own words), and / or if there is going to be widespread anchoring bans (cause the whole of the BoI will be banned come Christmas, then advocate for mooring bouys. Question, did YNZ turn up to the great Hui in Rawhiti that agreed on this anchoring ban? Rather than vent on here, I think I shall find out directly from YNZ. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Guest 48 Posted June 5 Share Posted June 5 1 hour ago, Bad Kitty said: Well that's gonna be a problem given that it's difficult to know if it's there until after you have anchored? And if it's as bad as reported it's shortly going to be in every bay in the Hauraki Gulf, the Bay of Islands, & Gt Barrier? Fair comment. But at this point in time that if it’s going to stop you getting good holding it will most likely be in one of the notified areas and you shouldn’t be there. In future who knows. Small consolation, its not taxifolia! What gets me also is the “throw it back” instead of instructions how to kill it and bin it. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
K4309 144 Posted June 6 Share Posted June 6 1 hour ago, Guest said: Fair comment. But at this point in time that if it’s going to stop you getting good holding it will most likely be in one of the notified areas and you shouldn’t be there. In future who knows. Small consolation, its not taxifolia! What gets me also is the “throw it back” instead of instructions how to kill it and bin it. Or just instructions on how to clean your anchor. The 'throw it back' assumes people can see it, and are inspecting their anchor and chain. They say a tiny rhizom can spread and grow very quickly. You may not be able to see it, or may have a remote anchor control. So why not advise if we can use a washdown on the anchor and chain? Maybe a little spray bottle of bleach in the anchor locker? or dish-wash soap, or some other household cleaning product. I read the divers at the barrier wash all their gear in a foaming soap wash, apparently that kills it. I'd be more than happy to keep a spray bottle (or even a barrel) of some household cleaner in my anchor locker, if I knew what one and that it would work in reducing the risk of my anchor shifting this caulerpa. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
harrytom 618 Posted June 6 Share Posted June 6 5 hours ago, Guest said: What gets me also is the “throw it back” So it can disperse in currents.Now thats a good idea Quote Link to post Share on other sites
K4309 144 Posted June 8 Share Posted June 8 Councils send strongly worded letter, oh, and ask for money. North Island councils combine in urgent call to govt for caulerpa support North Island councils combine in urgent call to govt for caulerpa support | RNZ News Quote Link to post Share on other sites
K4309 144 Posted June 12 Share Posted June 12 All boating is now banned in the BoI, as of 11:59pm last night (Monday) Yup. Everything. Anchoring fishing diving spear fishing collecting shell fish set netting any netting taking crays To be fair, the bans only cover 1,000 ha. Why? 200 ha has been found infested with caulerpa. Even the MPI says it is clear its been there for several seasons already, so good luck controlling it... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Psyche 528 Posted June 12 Share Posted June 12 Wow! Thats going to get people worked up! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
K4309 144 Posted June 12 Share Posted June 12 Just now, Psyche said: Wow! Thats going to get people worked up! Worked up?!?! Just this minute I have been checking YNZ news for what they are doing (nothing) and just found the contact details. Wonder if David A will take my call? The fizz boat and fishing industry (recreational fishing suppliers) will have something to say I think. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
waikiore 344 Posted June 12 Share Posted June 12 Ha a bit of weed on the bottom pff , Ask the locals-I was there last week they are more annoyed at the carpets of those square barnacles that cover your bottom in under a month now that local antifoul makers have wound back the copper content.! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
K4309 144 Posted June 12 Share Posted June 12 So David A was in a meeting, but I did actually manage to speak the PR guy Edwan. He wasn't aware of the anchoring ban, but once he got his head around the details couldn't wait to get me off the phone, in a good way. As in was rushing off to speak to David A and the advocacy manager (Raynor?). He did take all my contact details. It wasn't very hard for me to put a bee in his bonnet when he understood the extent of the ban including all forms of water activity, fishing, diving etc. He was very excited to hear the AC expert said caulerpa was most likely introduced by the aquarium trade (immediately wanted to know if he would go on record). And that the biggest outbreak in the world was confirmed to have been started by the Aquarium at Monoco University. I 'clarified' that no-one has pushed back on the narrative that boaties are spreading it. I am hopeful YNZ will now push back on that. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Ex Machina 339 Posted June 12 Share Posted June 12 15 minutes ago, waikiore said: Ha a bit of weed on the bottom pff , Ask the locals-I was there last week they are more annoyed at the carpets of those square barnacles that cover your bottom in under a month now that local antifoul makers have wound back the copper content.! Still plenty of coprous oxide in there . It’s the unpronounceables that have been banned from paints Quote Link to post Share on other sites
K4309 144 Posted June 12 Share Posted June 12 2 minutes ago, Ex Machina said: Still plenty of coprous oxide in there . It’s the unpronounceables that have been banned from paints The unpronounceables are now unprocureable. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Psyche 528 Posted June 12 Share Posted June 12 Whats the chance this ban extends to the greater BOI and all of Barrier? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Ex Machina 339 Posted June 12 Share Posted June 12 1 minute ago, Psyche said: Whats the chance this ban extends to the greater BOI and all of Barrier? Not a betting man but ….100% ? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Clipper 321 Posted June 13 Share Posted June 13 Cough Coastal Classic Cough............ Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Ex Machina 339 Posted June 13 Share Posted June 13 7 minutes ago, Clipper said: Cough Coastal Classic Cough............ Might have to turn right at cape colville ? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Psyche 528 Posted June 13 Share Posted June 13 The cat seems to have jumped out of the bag, run down the street and is now meowing all over town. The problem is that now it's established, nature needs to find a way to balance it out, unless there is some amazing and undiscovered method of eradicating it. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Adrianp 103 Posted June 13 Share Posted June 13 23 minutes ago, Clipper said: Cough Coastal Classic Cough............ Jeez, there is always something new each year to make running this race a challenge! Last year is was Dolphins, Covid the year before..... Looks like the ban is just for fishing, diving and anchoring in these areas, so you can still sail through. If the anchoring ban spreads to Russell, we might need to organise the use of all the empty moorings in the bay. https://www.mpi.govt.nz/news/media-releases/biosecurity-rules-in-place-to-stop-northland-spread-of-invasive-seaweed/ Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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