Fogg 427 Posted June 5, 2012 Share Posted June 5, 2012 When I sailed through that gap in the reef we waited til dawn cos it was too narrow for us to feel safe doing it for the first time in the dark. And we were in a mono doing 7 kts. Presumbly the TVS guys won't have the same hangups and will blast straight through it whatever time of night but I wonder whether they'd arrange for support boats to guide them? Given their speed and all that? Or maybe my memory is being selective and it's not so narrow after all... Link to post Share on other sites
Jon 360 Posted June 5, 2012 Share Posted June 5, 2012 mean while back in the fleet its looking far from tradewind sailing S2 looks to have a case of the zoro's must be crap sailing conditions as the speeds are all over the show In the other race Wasabi is very hot at the moment Link to post Share on other sites
Richard2249 5 Posted June 5, 2012 Share Posted June 5, 2012 Check out Gavin Brady's interview on Radio NZ (around 5.15 this afternoon). Extensive crack around the hull/deck and sounds like it was pretty touch and go whether to abandon the boat. And a big ask to get it back from Norfolk Is. Link to post Share on other sites
Absolution 7 Posted June 5, 2012 Share Posted June 5, 2012 Check out Gavin Brady's interview on Radio NZ (around 5.15 this afternoon). Extensive crack around the hull/deck and sounds like it was pretty touch and go whether to abandon the boat. And a big ask to get it back from Norfolk Is. http://podcast.radionz.co.nz/ckpt/ckpt- ... nd-048.mp3 Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Posted June 5, 2012 Share Posted June 5, 2012 Ouch...sounds like some good decisionmaking to an outsider! Link to post Share on other sites
Chewing Gum 17 Posted June 5, 2012 Share Posted June 5, 2012 Thanks Fineline - Brady's interview was amazing - so candid and revealing re earlier issues with that boat. he said it was at only 70% when it failed although I did notice it was doing 17kts not long before it failed. There must have been a fair bit of banging and crashing going to weather at that speed. Link to post Share on other sites
Chewing Gum 17 Posted June 5, 2012 Share Posted June 5, 2012 Good point. Let's all race in our Cav 32s and be done with it . There is a similarity with a Cav32 deck stepped mast Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Posted June 5, 2012 Share Posted June 5, 2012 So Gavin clearly thinks that there is a issue with the boat and with the volvos.....sums up a lot of opinion around here latley. Great seamanship to keep it afloat in tricky conditions and they might even be able to selvage the boat. Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Posted June 5, 2012 Share Posted June 5, 2012 Farrkkk, that sounds like it could have gone real bad super duper fast. Nice work team and looks like smart thinking, well done. Interesting to note the comment - 'communications were very good via Satph'. Ahggg.. yellowbrick knot loading. Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Posted June 5, 2012 Share Posted June 5, 2012 Finally got to listen to that interview. Hell. Good work by the crew. Who said it's ok coz people aren't dying? That could have gone either way. Link to post Share on other sites
grant 40 Posted June 5, 2012 Share Posted June 5, 2012 crikey definitely touch and go and good effort to get to shelter Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Posted June 5, 2012 Share Posted June 5, 2012 vodafone should be finished, 4 to go at last sked doing 15 Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Posted June 5, 2012 Share Posted June 5, 2012 heres the tv3 report on the drama from last night http://www.3news.co.nz/Crew-feared-yach ... fault.aspx Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Saturday Night Special Posted June 5, 2012 Share Posted June 5, 2012 Seamanship from a crew goes a long way to winning a race lack of it breaks boats . Boats need to be nursed to get them through ask Spray Hasler how you get a broken centee board one tonner to Hobart 17kn of top of big waves will break anything Link to post Share on other sites
Aussie 0 Posted June 5, 2012 Share Posted June 5, 2012 Team Vodafone Sailing at the start of the race Submitted by Suellen Hurling on Tue, 05/06/2012 - 21:10 At 20:59:50 hours ZST on Tuesday 5 June 2012, the Orma 60 Team Vodafone Sailing, skipped by Simon Hull, crossed the finish line in Noumea, New Caledonia to set a new multihull race record in the Evolution Sails Sail Noumea race. The new record stands at 3 days 6 hours 59 minutes and 50 seconds. “The last five hours have been character building to say the least,” said an exhausted yet excited Simon Hull as he finally returned to solid ground. “It was like pulling teeth, I have never been becalmed for that long before and hope to never go through that again!” The team were forced to an almighty halt when the conditions completely glassed out off the coast of the Lagoon entry into Noumea. At the required call in to Cercle Nautique Caledonien, boat captain Stuart MacKinven said the race was great but the last few hours were painful. “We finally got some breeze, about 15 knots from the west with just seven miles to go which pushed us over the line,” said MacKinven. The new multihull record sheds some positive light on the race which had a tough last 24 hours with Beau Geste being forced to head to Norfolk Island. All crew are now heading to various ports around the world with a few staying behind to assess the damage. The next boats are due to arrive within 48 hours with the lead boats in the main pack being V5, Akatea and Kia Kaha. V5 is currently leading on IRC and Akatea on PHRF. The crew from Team Vodafone Sailing are being welcomed by a team of volunteers from Cercle Nautique Caledonien who are eager to see them, and the rest of the fleet, safely in French waters. 41 TVS finishing the race More to come. Evolution Sails Tracker - http://yb.tl/noumea2012nz Website – http://www.sailnoumea.com Facebook – http://www.facebook.com/sailnoumea Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Posted June 5, 2012 Share Posted June 5, 2012 Dave "Killer" Wood said they were dropping the J4 in 25knts expecting more, being conservative. Back in the old days we had choppo and polyester, then we got stiched and knitted cloths and epoxy and foam cores, then we started breaking things, then came kevlar, which didn't stop it breaking but held it together. then along comes carbon, if we put as much carbon in as the kevlar it wont break..... Ok lets put in less carbon ............... The big problem is what to engineer it too, if you say have a 2:1 saftey, but your performance and loads eceeds expectations by 25% you suddenly have 0 saftey margin. Now we have ISO standards that exceed ABS, the volvo boats are surposed to be built above that again. The other thing with carbon is there is no warning typicall ( unless it's big, and or, you've got good ears ) so it's good, good, good good, gone. Most of the time it fails in compression first, then add in core failure as well. The Jaun K boats have core ties, basically stingers glassed over inside the core tying the inner and outer skins together, his boats have structurally feared well, you can google speedboats construction video to see what i mean ( didn't stop the keel falling off ) Link to post Share on other sites
Chewing Gum 17 Posted June 5, 2012 Share Posted June 5, 2012 "you can google speedboats construction video to see what i mean ( didn't stop the keel falling off )" http://www.sailinginnovation.tv/video/8 ... nstruction Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Posted June 5, 2012 Share Posted June 5, 2012 Carerra's turn to be in a spot of bother All well on board. Vessel has taken on water and they lost their inverta and are working on back-up navigation equipment. The RAYC team will update you as more information comes to hand. Please standby. Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Posted June 5, 2012 Share Posted June 5, 2012 "you can google speedboats construction video to see what i mean ( didn't stop the keel falling off )" http://www.sailinginnovation.tv/video/8 ... nstruction Nope too short, that's just the inner skins Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Posted June 5, 2012 Share Posted June 5, 2012 Ice breaker is now suffering damage NZ Update: Information from Icebreaker Icebreaker have advised RAYC Race Management that they have suspended racing and are heading to Norfolk Island to undertake a keelboat inspection. At the time of the report being 21:45 hours their position was 31.07S 170.01E. ETA to Norfolk Island is approximately 48 hours. All crew are well on board and no further assistance has been requested. Current weather conditions are 16 knot northerlys. Icebreaker will maintain the regular skeds. New Zealand Maritime Rescue Coordination Centre has been advised and is keeping a waiting brief. Link to post Share on other sites
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