Romany

anybody know why the disparity in corrected elapsed times? I assume they are similar sizes.

no argument there Sloop.

I dont have an issue with licencing if it reduces the number of dickheads out there on the water, but regrettably regimes like this dont guarantee anything. I'm about to introduce my 6y.old boy to the sea, and to be frank it scares me that incidences of dangerous behavour seem to be increasing. I've never been one to throw sh*t at other vessels or confront other boaties at anchor, when they do dumb things but with precious ' cargo' on board, i can see it happening.

Putting aside my negativity, I just realised its a Sydney to Akld race ( yes I know. DER. Its all in the leading lines!) and it occured to me how much more awesome would it be if it was a 2 legged event with boats leaving both side's at the same time (i.e doubling the tasman) 2 weeks to re-gather/repair or withdraw and off we go again). Winner to be determined on total elapsed time. My ramblings aside, the sad fact is that this sort of event probably is now (& may well have been for years) the domain of semi-pro or professional teams. Its good to see something new happening.

In which case - assuming Akarana are actually not involved - I retract.

Don't worry though it will come to nothing. Letting off steam is all.

The attitude that RAYC have demonstrated toward maintaining haul-out facilities. nothing personal.

Awesome event. Shithouse organisers. All boats should, as a condition of entry, have to stay in the water for 8 weeks prior to start without being hauled and /or cleaned in any fashion. Even if I could I would not enter or support the organiser by entering.

and bugger - wind on the snout.

Whats happened to Vixen?

I see skipper has decided to shoot the gap and do 'just' a RNI. Fair call. I'd be thinking hard about getting to Cook and turning around. East Coast with all the potential for floating timber seems like a scarey prospect to me.

You're never there until you're there, so near the end, beware... Fair winds to skipper & crew

Good on him (?) but why? Is it fund raising for a cause, or just because.

And now from the meaningless graph department. This came up on windy when i swiped or clicked or something... Anybody got a clue as to what it means?

Ex Veldare, Please explain that? I don't understand your point. Cheers

Agreed IT. My point was more about repeating whispers heard on grapevine. Having said that, it would be niave to think operator gets it 100% all the time (although thats not out of the question), but certainly if the facility is not up to the task they have a much more difficult situation. I think all thaf stuff about operator errors is utter bollocks anyway and has not contributed to this. RAYC are amongst the major villans here and should be taken to task for their attitude. At least, they should front up and put up the facts leading to their stance.

Dangerous things grapevines. I'd be careful about potential for a bitter crop! STF may not be responsible for the infrastructure ( I think earlier STF post said they provide plant and labour - which i guess is tractors n stuff and people, not retention/detention tanks) but subject to criticism when it is inadequate for the job required. The classic hospital pass.

I'm with you BP. It (pro sports in any discipline - yes even our beloved yachting) has for some time been increasingly tarnished by poor behaviour from one participant or another (players/teams/hangers on) to the point now where I am considering watching more reality TV. Not. I'd rather go out and mow the lawns - only problem is they don't grow as fast as the crap behaviour of these people comes out of the wood work

You are at the top of the slippery slope so to speak. Good luck to you

A momentary thread drift, but Western Springs Speedway, now Okahu Bay haulout. The Fun Police and NIMBYS represented by some who also are on this site, are coming to a street near u. Its time they were told to f*ck off in tradesmen like language

Kev this is not the time or place to grind yer axe. I'm going along and suggest anybody who has a boat, or plans on buying one should too. Whatever u do, dont bring any axes or agendas other than putting a good case for the facilities continuing operation. I hope St Chads has a lot of chairs and sandwiches. As others have noted, personnel can be changed, but make no mistake - once the yard is closed we are rooted.

Oh well i better bust out my 16 grit discs

..new ply...

Thanks for replies. Yesterday i did more and 1:1 is about right so I'm going with beginners luck or lack thereof, as the reason i used too much. Another question for those of u who know... i watched a boat builder who is working elsewhere in the yard, and was intrigued/impressed to see him do a fibreglass layer on now ply, and then 2 or 3 hours later apply fairing to that same area.. no sanding! That made sense to me cos it seems that freshly laid fibreglass prior to final cure is the ultimate surface to receive fairing. Is that common practice or just a cunning old fox at work?

I've been advised by the product supplier (not a Burnsco/NZ Fibreglass type retailer) that the ratio is roughly 1:1 ;I.e. resin weight/m2 = matting weight - so, using 290gsm woven cloth u would expect to use approx same in mixed resin per m2. Maybe a liddle bit more to account for soakage, but user based f*ck ups like leaving it in the sun. Doh. Last week i did some glass on my cockpit floor, which has had the old cork/resin non skid over the top of glass sanded right back to almost fly sh*t thickness, and allowing for the solar issue, I reckon i used 1.5 times that weight of resin.