wild violet 31 Posted July 5, 2019 Report Share Posted July 5, 2019 If your not clearing into a country why bother we go sailing to get away from bloody rules.only things I would think are necessary would be life raft and epirb on board. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Frank 23 Posted July 5, 2019 Report Share Posted July 5, 2019 We were wondering this for Minerva reef while stuck there for 10 days in May. Officially claimed by Tonga but no shore to go ashore on. Could you sail there and sail back to Nz without checking in/out? You can go ashore there but only when the tide is low Quote Link to post Share on other sites
John B 89 Posted July 5, 2019 Report Share Posted July 5, 2019 Minerva reef is unreal, been there 4 times now and we were there 3 weeks ago or so. People I've spoken to say there are regs to prevent a trip there and back without clearance. You might still get away with the ole blown offshore and had to fix something trick. Or not. I know it's not relevant to the wanganella banks trip but this fixation on cat one is silly. Cat 1 is a doddle, you should have everything thats required anyway. Do you know what you're doing? Then you're going to get cat 1. Contact an inspector, develop a working relationship so he knows that you do know what you're doing, voila. You want to know stress? Try insuring your boat for offshore, f $#@^*/) nightmare. Battleship 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Steve Pope 105 Posted July 5, 2019 Report Share Posted July 5, 2019 i've got friends who spent 6 weeks there, unless an Orion flies over (Minerva, as they do) who's to know? There was an Aussie that sailed around the world non stop, and was given a hard time by Aussie authorities, who didn't believe him when he sailed into his home port without checking out or in. I believe that once he proved he hadn't stopped anywhere they eased up. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
southernman 45 Posted July 5, 2019 Report Share Posted July 5, 2019 Special permission must be granted by Customs New Zealand (external site) to enter the waters or stop at the Kermadecs when travelling from overseas to or from New Zealand. The requirement is that you travel directly from one customs clearance port to another customs clearance port. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
DrWatson 222 Posted July 6, 2019 Report Share Posted July 6, 2019 Special permission must be granted by Customs New Zealand (external site) to enter the waters or stop at the Kermadecs when travelling from overseas to or from New Zealand. The requirement is that you travel directly from one customs clearance port to another customs clearance port. Interesting, but this wording indicates the requirement only applies if you are going to or coming from somewhere else and want to stop in as you go past. Sabre 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Steve Pope 105 Posted July 8, 2019 Report Share Posted July 8, 2019 Special permission must be granted by Customs New Zealand (external site) to enter the waters or stop at the Kermadecs when travelling from overseas to or from New Zealand. The requirement is that you travel directly from one customs clearance port to another customs clearance port. I would assume that that permission is only required if you plan to sail within the 12mile limit, otherwise any "ship" entering the 200 mile economic zone would have to comply, which would be against the freedom of navigation rights of all shipping. Isn't America currently testing this right in the South China sea?? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
KM... 836 Posted July 8, 2019 Report Share Posted July 8, 2019 unless an Orion flies over (Minerva, as they do) who's to know? The guys n gals sitting in the small windowless timber clad building in the SW corner of the Forum Fisheries Agency compound on the rise above Honiara in the Solomans. How do I know of this building? I built it. How do I know they can see most of the Sth Pacific? It's the ground station for a satellite put up to watch boats in the Sth Pacific, specifically the fishing fleets and are they declaring what they catch. I know it has also been tasked to follow suspected drug carrying boats crossing the Tasman. It is also used by the NZ and AUS Govts in pinging fishing boats sneaking into their waters as well. Would they be interested Mminerva? I highly doubt it unless there was a boat of interest there. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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