Sailing NZ 25 Posted March 28, 2020 Report Share Posted March 28, 2020 10 hours ago, Knot Me... maybe said: Better? Yes. Much better? No. Better enough of a difference to make a significant one on the shelf? A solid No. The freight component is variable due to when, ship speed, size of box, time of year, shipping companies just wanting more money. But of the whole fright invoice it is one of the few that is and it is very rarely the majority of the invoice total, most are fixed costs whether you bring in a 40ft container or a feather. Customs and the other monopolies with their fingers in there have no need to do deals for anyone and they don't. And I reject your blanket claim you can buy the same spec oversea cheaper. In some case oh hell yes but in all, absolutely not. Interesting that. In your industry that. May be right but in many industries where higher quality control applies there is no difference at all because quality is heavily regulated and any crap has been eliminated by historical performance and purchaser expectations. Maybe your industry if full of cowboys? Or poor governance?.... Or does not need high quality options?... In the customers blurred eyes? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Sailing NZ 25 Posted March 28, 2020 Report Share Posted March 28, 2020 On 5/03/2020 at 3:50 PM, tuffyluffy said: I'm not surprised and I bet a majority of it is due to inefficient, unproductive, bureaucratic red-tape. Agree 100%... A bit like govt, council's,... Paperwork/ overzealous regulation has made this country very expensive and inefficient. Yet we still do not physically check every container for contriband.. but the paperwork is anally probed by microscope to the nano particle level. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
darkside 18 Posted March 28, 2020 Report Share Posted March 28, 2020 I'm just pleased we are now permitted to open and devan containers. We have a couple arriving tomorrow which aren't "essential" For a while it looked like they would sit in our yard until the end of the lock down. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
KM... 829 Posted March 28, 2020 Report Share Posted March 28, 2020 1 hour ago, Sailing NZ said: Interesting that. In your industry that. May be right but in many industries where higher quality control applies there is no difference at all because quality is heavily regulated and any crap has been eliminated by historical performance and purchaser expectations. Maybe your industry if full of cowboys? Or poor governance?.... Or does not need high quality options?... In the customers blurred eyes? The costs for a container are for 'a container with up to 21t of goodies inside it', what those goodies are, the quality of them and whether or not the box if full or empty is pretty much irrelevant. If anything the higher the quality the less any freight variation will make on the price. For example the freight component will be very significantly higher and affect the final price far more with a Gt Wall ute than it would a Aston Martin. Yes the marine industry does have it's fair share of cowboys, no doubt about that, but again that doesn't affect freight costs. 6 minutes ago, darkside said: I'm just pleased we are now permitted to open and devan containers. We have a couple arriving tomorrow which aren't "essential" For a while it looked like they would sit in our yard until the end of the lock down. Same here, I'm waiting for the call the truck/s are on the way so I can pop out and unload them. We have a procedure to ensure everyone has no need to leave their bubble. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Island Time 775 Posted March 28, 2020 Author Report Share Posted March 28, 2020 Hm, KM, surely that is non essential travel, and therefore prohibited? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
darkside 18 Posted March 28, 2020 Report Share Posted March 28, 2020 IT, Grant Robertson gave the go ahead to devan even for non essential on Firday. They are concerned about both lack of port space and having enough empty containers to export produce from NZ. We will send one guy in to do the MPI stuff, and another to go in later to drive the machines out, so no bubbles burst. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
KM... 829 Posted March 28, 2020 Report Share Posted March 28, 2020 The police are saying that as it's easier for the simple and stupid to understand than it appears they are able to understand what exactly the 'lock down' is there to achieve. If you did not say no travel the roads would be chocker, if you said 'try not to travel' the roads would be very busy so all you can do is say 'No travel' in the hope most won't, which is what we are seeing. The idea is more travel means more chances to pop bubbles or what is worse and the primary driver is everyone pisses off to their Taupo bach then gets crook only to find massive que of coughing farting Aucklanders lined up to get into Taupos 4 bed facility. The exact same applies to the boaties parked at Barrier as another example, if they become crook then they could easily cause the death of Barrier locals by depriving them of their meagre facilities. No bubbles have any reason to be nor will any be compromised by my actions, quite the opposite. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
KM... 829 Posted March 28, 2020 Report Share Posted March 28, 2020 9 minutes ago, darkside said: IT, Grant Robertson gave the go ahead to devan even for non essential on Firday. They are concerned about both lack of port space and having enough empty containers to export produce from NZ. Yeap there is a massive issue with containers right around the world. Due to China shutting down there are 500,000 containers sitting there waiting to be shipped out, which started to happen last week. Due to that NZ has had a massive shortage of empty containers needed for it's exports which is why they want incoming emptied quick not parked up for a month. The imbalance is that bad some container ships are chocker block shipping empty containers to help correct it. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
mcp 20 Posted March 28, 2020 Report Share Posted March 28, 2020 1 hour ago, Knot Me... maybe said: shipping empty containers to help correct it. I heard they were filling them with sailboat fuel? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
marinheiro 150 Posted March 29, 2020 Report Share Posted March 29, 2020 we are still receiving the last back orders for our business - air freighted out of Brazil. DHL and customs are still working pretty much as normal, just that most of DHL's office staff are working from home Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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