Romany 162 Posted August 7, 2016 Share Posted August 7, 2016 tuffy has it right. This is why I have a Townson yacht, but I guess there are others... I just haven't seen any Quote Link to post Share on other sites
John B 106 Posted August 7, 2016 Share Posted August 7, 2016 Des Townson rowed around my boat , came aboard , and told me that Laurie Davidson got it perfectly right and he wouldn't change anything. But even a biggish Davidson then is a small boat now. Pretty much any modern Hanse/ Bene etc even a few feet shorter makes it a bit of a tunnel . So what does that mean.. yes I agree, go for the row away factor. Its what I've always done anyway. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Clipper 343 Posted August 8, 2016 Share Posted August 8, 2016 I'm an engineer by training, so function is a big deal for me. I wouldn't say I need a good looking boat, but no way could I deal with an ugly one. Sailing well is obviously critical. And my wife says the next boat must have a roof, not a tent.... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Crew.orgy Posted August 8, 2016 Share Posted August 8, 2016 Ill take a pretty boat with compromised living quarters over an ugly boat with great accommodation any day. Yuuupp!!! Thats how i see it. Who takes an ugly woman to meet your mates, and tell them..." she's well fitted out below" If it looks good it goes good! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Romany 162 Posted August 8, 2016 Share Posted August 8, 2016 Which is why you should never touch a woman until you meet her mum. And I am sure the selection process works equally strongly in reverse. I am like my dad, & can't understand what the hell my Mrs was thinking! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
AJ Oliver 154 Posted August 8, 2016 Share Posted August 8, 2016 I be gobsmacked . . none of ya care about how she sails? Lets see, looks and room . . what else could possibly matter? As the young 'uns say, "WHAAAAAAAAAT . . ?" (Free Plug For Great Escape) http://www.greatescape.co.nz/wp-content/uploads/2015/01/davidson2.png Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Clipper 343 Posted August 8, 2016 Share Posted August 8, 2016 I be gobsmacked . . none of ya care about how she sails? Sailing well is obviously critical Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Island Time 1,235 Posted August 8, 2016 Share Posted August 8, 2016 AJ, I don't read that into most of the comments. Form follows function. If it looks right it will likely sail well. However, for me, sailing ability is right up there... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Adrianp 120 Posted August 8, 2016 Share Posted August 8, 2016 I'm an engineer by training, so function is a big deal for me. I wouldn't say I need a good looking boat, but no way could I deal with an ugly one. Sailing well is obviously critical. And my wife says the next boat must have a roof, not a tent.... Must to time to upgrade Voom to a be a "Sports Deck" GBE. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Clipper 343 Posted August 8, 2016 Share Posted August 8, 2016 That is what i would call an 'ugly one' Also, not sure it qualifies under 'sailing well' either. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Crew.orgy Posted August 8, 2016 Share Posted August 8, 2016 I be gobsmacked . . none of ya care about how she sails? Lets see, looks and room . . what else could possibly matter? As the young 'uns say, "WHAAAAAAAAAT . . ?" (Free Plug For Great Escape) http://www.greatescape.co.nz/wp-content/uploads/2015/01/davidson2.png I think we did! What is " sails well"? To a racer its very fine measurement of velocity and sailing angles. To a cruiser it is ease of helming, smoothness thru the water, the " G & T" stability test.... IT, i never have understood the logic behind form following function. Most beautiful yachts are the reverse. Doesn't a designer invisage a beautiful form first then built some functionality into the shape? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
wheels 543 Posted August 8, 2016 Share Posted August 8, 2016 It was a simple question that was not supposed to be over thunked. I think we are over thinking now. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
DrWatson 375 Posted August 8, 2016 Share Posted August 8, 2016 Like this one? One has to look twice to see the mooring pile and that you're not actually anchored over the cable... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
DrWatson 375 Posted August 8, 2016 Share Posted August 8, 2016 To be honest I actually thought it was Des who said "if it looks right, it is right." But at the end of the day, I'd take the boat with the best performance, although my requirements for performance are likely very different to other folks. Weatherliness, speed, ability to enter shoal water, not too much windage, masts on tabernacles, impossible to sink, DRY, self righting, comfortable bed, standing shower, decent dunny, great galley, plenty of cold space, clothes washer ... these are all features I would consider very high up on my list. I actually feel that the two features, good looks and functionality are not mutually exclusive. If one is lacking then the designer has failed. The essence of good design, as explained to me by an experienced designer is. "Good design = Works well looks good." Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Black Panther 1,590 Posted August 8, 2016 Share Posted August 8, 2016 a lot of people would struggle with its looks, but it is immensely practical and apparently sails well and is seaworthy. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
tuffyluffy 76 Posted August 8, 2016 Share Posted August 8, 2016 a lot of people would struggle with its looks, but it is immensely practical and apparently sails well and is seaworthy. Good lawd man that is god-awful ugly, pass the eye bleach. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Dambo 44 Posted August 8, 2016 Share Posted August 8, 2016 a lot of people would struggle with its looks, but it is immensely practical and apparently sails well and is seaworthy. However, I wouldn't keep it in a marina and would only be on deck at night... You have one of Spencer's good 'uns, I always liked the lines of his hulls but you can always spot a Spencer - 'nice hull with a dog box put on as an afterthought' - is the way I see it. I admire Des's boats the most for balance: good lines above and below, adequate living/cruising space, well balanced, reasonably quick (especially in their day) wonderful to sail. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Black Panther 1,590 Posted August 9, 2016 Share Posted August 9, 2016 Who needs a marina when you float in 18 inches of water. And what other 28ft boat has a queen sized bed? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ScottiE 174 Posted August 9, 2016 Share Posted August 9, 2016 most of the 8.5 cats can have king size beds! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Black Panther 1,590 Posted August 9, 2016 Share Posted August 9, 2016 That could be overstating things ever so slightly . My only real objection to a cat is the price. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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