Jump to content

Soft shackles


Recommended Posts

Does anyone use these on their headsail sheets?  How good are they?   Particularly when tacking?   What size is best?  Thinking 6mm being a total of 12mm holding power.   Do you leave the on when furling and after putting the boat to bed?  

Link to post
Share on other sites
On 5/02/2022 at 5:24 PM, SanFran said:

And making them..., if u use, then what length is best to make.

Yeah we have then. As short as possible is the answer. Also add pull tails so they can be easily opened. 

They are kind of a bugger when changing sails in a rough seaway, they demand two hands, which makes hanging on difficult, while a bowline can be tied with one hand

Don't worry about the diameter you use. Pick whatever is sensible. 6mm has a breaking strain of 4000kg, unless you're going to be hanging the equivalent of a family size car off your clew you won't break them.  ;)

We also have a Velcro wrap on each which we wrap around the centre to reduce the chance of catching on things when tacking and stop them shaking off. 

And we leave them on all the time. 

  • Like 1
Link to post
Share on other sites

I make them regularly, theres a good knot app called Grogs Animated Knots that happens to have step by step instructions for 2 different styles. I use this design;

 

Link to post
Share on other sites

For headsail clew - brilliant. Over 30 years I've experimented with allsorts. No heavy bits of steel to hit you on the foredeck. Make them [ from old rope even] with long tails. They look a bit untidy, but it makes then easier to take off if you are changing sails. I've never  had one break on me, but probably best to replace each season due to u/v damage.

 

Link to post
Share on other sites

I've found these instructions really helpful.  https://l-36.com/soft_shackle_9.php   Great little calculator to help with measurements and sizings. 

Added them to new Genoa / Jib Sheets.  A small eye splice on the sheet means the soft shackle fits in tightly and stays there permanently.  

Agree with Carpe Diem.  They take two hands, to attach and remove, which can be a drawback.  

splice.thumb.png.d1ae5b3c3cf9aa8afe8fe1b8246398a1.png

Link to post
Share on other sites
5 minutes ago, aardvarkash10 said:

whats the advantage over just tying the sheet to the 

We found Soft Shackles helped with timing the Genoa and Jib in.  Always the same size, not like a bowline.  So better as a reference for timing. 

Also, the bowline on the sheet needed to be very small otherwise it would touch or restrict the Jib car.  

Link to post
Share on other sites
52 minutes ago, aardvarkash10 said:

whats the advantage over just tying the sheet to the clew?

its a neater solution all round, doesnt catch the shrouds as much as a bowline and faster if changing sails. If you havent got eyes spliced in the ends of your sheets then youll need to buy new ones as thats almost impossible on old lines.

Have tried them but not a big fan of integrated shackles as the button knot wont pass through sheaves easily and it's a tidier bundle at the clew with a single shackle with only one knot to catch shrouds, although you only need the softie on one sheet so there is that.

  • Like 1
Link to post
Share on other sites
1 minute ago, SanFran said:

 

Good to know.  Any issues when they are not under load?  Ie they dont open up or shake off...

They can be fidgety to open, especially if you have wet gloves on, that's why pull cords are advised to open them quickly. 

They could theoritcally shake off right, just like I could theoritcally find the winning lotto ticket blowing down my street.... I think it is very unlikely, but definitely not impossible. 

I have never had one shake off, while I have had bowlines shake out several times. 

  • Like 2
Link to post
Share on other sites

I've had a soft shackle shake off. Now use insulating tape or velcro as mentioned earlier in the thread and haven't had it happen again.

Link to post
Share on other sites
4 minutes ago, raz88 said:

I've had a soft shackle shake off. Now use insulating tape or velcro as mentioned earlier in the thread and haven't had it happen again.

Oh yes, I meant with the Velcro... Good catch! 

  • Like 1
Link to post
Share on other sites

Martin that’s clever for a cruising boat

wouldn’t work on a race boat that wants to peel headsails 

Link to post
Share on other sites

Use them on the gennaker sheets which also double the code zero sheets , makes for a quick changeover from Gen to zero etc.

 

also use on the jib sheets much kinder to the mast and deck than an SS shackle 

Link to post
Share on other sites

Join the conversation

You can post now and register later. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account.
Note: Your post will require moderator approval before it will be visible.

Guest
Reply to this topic...

×   Pasted as rich text.   Paste as plain text instead

  Only 75 emoji are allowed.

×   Your link has been automatically embedded.   Display as a link instead

×   Your previous content has been restored.   Clear editor

×   You cannot paste images directly. Upload or insert images from URL.

×
×
  • Create New...