ex Elly 246 Posted January 14 Author Share Posted January 14 The Moth bare hull is $72K https://mackayboats.com/index.cfm/shop/bm-v3-bieker-moth-package-inc-foils-trolley-top-cover/ You could build a Cherub for $20K. There is a 3 year old one here for $10K https://www.trademe.co.nz/a/motors/boats-marine/yachts/centreboard/listing/5084533868 But you are not comparing like for like, since the Moth is professionally built full carbon vs Cherub home built with plywood hull. Plus the Moth foils would add a lot to the cost. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Black Panther 1,753 Posted January 15 Share Posted January 15 Go racing for 120k or go racing for 10k? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ex Elly 246 Posted January 16 Author Share Posted January 16 Which is more exciting - skimming across water at 15 knots, or flying above the water at 30knots? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Ex Machina 390 Posted January 16 Share Posted January 16 You can’t beat the RNZYS youth program for bang for buck . It has churned out a shed load of pro and semi pro sailors that usually go on to work in the marine industry and race locally or overseas . It lifts everyone’s game and NZ’s standing as a maritime nation par excellence . Kudos too to those that take the Olympic path , that’s some dedication for sure . 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
aardvarkash10 1,100 Posted January 16 Share Posted January 16 4 hours ago, ex Elly said: Which is more exciting - skimming across water at 15 knots, or flying above the water at 30knots? Competing and possibly winning are not related to speed. Compare trials motorcycling to GP. Both motorcycle sports, different expectations. If outright speed is the measure, drag racing is the ultimate motor sport. IMO, this is not necessarily so. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
mcp 34 Posted January 16 Share Posted January 16 11 hours ago, aardvarkash10 said: Compare trials motorcycling to GP. Both motorcycle sports, different expectations. True, but one millions of people watch every weekend, because it is seen as the pinnacle of motorcycle road racing and the other very rarely seen. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Psyche 787 Posted January 16 Share Posted January 16 Reasonable foiling moths can be had second hand 15-25k so not unobtainable but like all gear sports, if you want to be at the front of the pack youll need the best (newest) equipment. Back to YNZ, it's easy to be critical of an organisation if they purport to advocate on behalf of a something youre involved with and dont live up to expectations. But at least YNZ are doing something and they do exist which is more than the other national organisations representing yachties of which there are none that I know of lol! If people want YNZ to change then the answer is "get involved" write letters, turn up to meetings, lobby your club, the local representatives etc. We might grumble about YNZ levy but it is nothing in the boat ownership expenses bin and no one is forcing you to join a yacht club. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Priscilla II 444 Posted January 16 Share Posted January 16 Crikey you really do get a lot of choice regarding trim control options for your money😀 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
eruptn 105 Posted Tuesday at 01:54 AM Share Posted Tuesday at 01:54 AM https://www.rnz.co.nz/news/national/540797/troubled-waters-for-yachting-nz Some more information Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ex Elly 246 Posted Tuesday at 01:55 AM Author Share Posted Tuesday at 01:55 AM Troubled waters for Yachting NZ Yachting New Zealand is the country's first body to be dragged before the new Sport Integrity Commission, in what is uncharted territory But beneath the podium it's not all smooth sailing. Editor of Sail World, Richard Gladwell, said it was nowhere near as bad as it looks, and "Yachting New Zealand is always the whipping boy". "It doesn't really matter what they do, they're always the one at fault," he said. That's a perception forged out of his history as not only an Olympic triallist, but his work from 2004 to 2012 on the board of Yachting New Zealand. https://www.rnz.co.nz/news/thedetail/540797/troubled-waters-for-yachting-nz Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Psyche 787 Posted Tuesday at 02:22 AM Share Posted Tuesday at 02:22 AM I read the act, its pretty vague. This is going to be a legal gravy train Quote Link to post Share on other sites
boxonsmash 4 Posted Friday at 07:38 AM Share Posted Friday at 07:38 AM So one of Yachting NZ's managements besties says, " it's nowhere near as bad as it looks. Well that's the problem, it's actually a lot worse than it looks. The speed with which Sports Integrity Commission got into its work says a lot. And I'll believe YNZ initiated their internal inquiry without being forced to do so when much higher authorities than YNZ say so. And it says a lot about YNZ that these two inquiries are needed after they had seen such dreadful results from the recent inquiries into Rowing NZ, Cycling NZ and Canoe Racing NZ. The other issue of major concern to the higher authorities in NZ sport funding and management is where are all the Olympic sailors these days ? The cupboard is bare ! There was virtually no competition for many of the slots The 49er, the 49er FX and the Nacra each had just one boat to select from, the ILCA 7 just two, The ILCA 6 was selected on the basis of being "emerging talent" as was the women's iQ Foil. Was there anyone else ? The two iQ Kite sailors were both selected after protracted legal wrangling , one of them proving that he had indeed met all necessary selection criteria. Higher sporting authorities must have shook their heads in disbelief. After so many Olympics leaving sailing slots empty the cupboards were very bare in these classes . And now the 49ers and Nacra cat are the same. Wasn't YNZ meant to foster Olympic sailing ? Things are indeed a lot worse than some might hope. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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