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  1. I've read the MNZ report. 1stly let me again express my condolences to the families concerned. We all need to see this as a learning experience, to try to prevent another similar event at a later time. IMO most core construction vessels cannot simply screw "storm shutters" to a window surround without weakening the whole area. External shutters screwed on would have made little difference in this situation unless they where actually in contact with the window material or frame, and hence provided additional support to resist the internal pressure. A few screws in a composite structure ar
    4 points
  2. Went to replace the vhf antenna in mast cable on Island time. Broke it off in the mast, conduit seems blocked. Rig needs painting as well, so pulled the mast. Disassembled and bought rig home. Spent the last couple of days removing conduit, wiring, then sanding and painting.
    2 points
  3. So to follow up on how this all turned out. We have decided to do the paint work here in the first world paint realm of New Zealand. The best contractors in Fiji were painting in tarped or heat shrunk tents that had earthen bottoms held 30-80 cm off the ground which could readily have admitted sand and sanding dust on an afternoon breeze. We also found that only two of the half dozen contractors there were capable of even writing back and then there was only one that followed thru but then never sent the estimate. All in all... not the sort of experience we were seeking for our trimaran. Mayb
    2 points
  4. I agree that external covers screwed on aren't going to make that much difference, although if they were paired with similar covers internally and bolted together that would be a start. Still seems to me that storm covers that *aren't* attached would be more useful, particularly once a window broke, as long as you had a simple method (such as channel) to fit them afterwards. Tricky though since you don't know what you're going to lose as well as the windows. Simpler I think just not to have windows over 2 square feet on your boat.
    2 points
  5. So the significant change is the covers,are now fitted rather than carried? Then in the report a photo of how it should be done that looks to me to be utterly useless. Essense lost her windows from the inside out the covers shown are ply over the windows , the ply against the coamings would stop them being stovevin, but a few little screws wouldn't stop them popping out.
    2 points
  6. Covid saved us a minimum of $300m that hosting 2021 APEC was slated to cost so it's not all bad news.
    2 points
  7. The general negativity in the media is disappointing, but not unexpected. Covid buggered it up right royally. Agree or not, this pack of fear mongering clowns in power not letting in world media, youth competitors and super yachts really cost the city. That been said, with no covid al of these would have happened and the numbers would tell a very different story 18 youth teams were entered for the Youth Americas cup...which would have given the squaddie a decent bucket of cash to spent elsewhere, instead YD had to suck the kumara on the 1 boat they built. Each team would have ha
    2 points
  8. I think the best way to cut through the confusion is simply to recognise that you could view the event through several different lenses with different outcomes as a result: 1. Infrastructure - probably overall good outcome. As far as I’m aware nothing significant was built that is a dead asset ‘white elephant’ ie we can enjoy future use from the new assets for other events or services (not just AC) 2. Global spectator event - a world-class event took place in NZ despite Covid and took place successfully. Good outcome. 3. NZ spectator event - we enjoyed a world class event on our
    2 points
  9. 2 years ago the rumour was that there would be no more leases - only rentals. At last night's WMUA meeting the rumour was that Panuku needs more money so would be offering 13 year leases to current berthholders. But nothing has been decided.
    2 points
  10. My take on it is a large amount of that headline number is for work that needed doing at some stage to improve the cities infrastructure into the future but the AC and APEC meant that the development of it was brought forward. Very little of the money was spent on organising and holding a regatta. There's some pretty slanted anti AC interpretation of the numbers I thought. Did anyone think that the return from holding the Cup was really going to pay for the new seawall, Ferry Building plaza upgrade, stooping Wynyard Wharf from falling into the sea, removing the remainder of the tanks and the D
    2 points
  11. Looks like the harbour master has a different idea of the Waitamata Harbour than some on here.
    2 points
  12. Time for some maintenance...WOF time.
    1 point
  13. I read this report 3 days ago and haven’t read any of the comments above as I like to digest this type of thing in relation to what I’d have done in my boat or any other yacht I was sailing. Firstly these are people that have owned and sailed this yacht many miles plus they were well crewed so my interpretation is they had no major concerns about the ability of this yacht in theses conditions My first question is how long had this front hatch been open ? Is it possible that it’s been left not dogged down for some time by mistake (easy to do if you need ventilation in forward cabin i
    1 point
  14. Also known as Fix Or Repair Daily......
    1 point
  15. A Frenchman who, because of covid, decided to sail non stop from noumea to reunion. 7000 miles in 77 days in a 4m self designed and built boat.
    1 point
  16. You can't regulate against every possible scenario. It becomes whack a mole.
    1 point
  17. What about instead of external storm shutters you had internal ones, a bit like deadlights, if designed properly for strength and ease of use they could serve a dual purpose, mind you no matter how well designed the boat and how good the crew are, there will be a point that the conditions will overcome them....
    1 point
  18. My overriding takeaway from this incident and report is a sense of unease that this continues a culture of “An accident happened and therefore something must be done to prevent a recurrence.” For sure do an investigation but don’t automatically assume there must always be a conclusion that a new guideline / practise / rule / law must follow. Sometimes that is the right outcome especially when a glaring omission is identified which can be readily implemented. But in cases like this I don’t think that’s necessarily the case. The giveaway for me is how impractical the recommended s
    1 point
  19. Nah, not mine! I dont have any lawns, detracts from boat (maintenance!) time
    1 point
  20. Set a new personal monohull record
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  21. Isn’t that what munters do on the weekend ?
    1 point
  22. Looking at the picture it's already are separated internally with Muntins, and they don't look large enough to be a issue. It's the size of the internal hole, not the size of the covering glass that matters. in the interests of sharing... Mullion's are inside and outside and split the glass entirely so you have two pieces of glass. While Muntin's are only on the inside and provide structural support to the window frame, but the glass is continuous over the Muntin.
    1 point
  23. This. Whatever your plan is it needs to be implemented way before it is necessary.
    1 point
  24. and how do you stop condensation between the layers? After being on that passage from Tonga in 2019 with winds steady 45 gusting 65... I can't even begin to imagine going out on deck with a piece of plywood, it's just nuts. And the idea of only sending some screws thru whatever your skin and foam core might constitute... is an absurd idea on that sort of hull construction. This story (for me) is a sobering reminder of how vulnerable salon windows have become in modern yacht design. Even our Farrier with a 4 to 8 cm rabbited recess and screws every 24cm seems wholly inadequate.
    1 point
  25. Report said "many relatively modern production vessels, such as Essence, are constructed from materials that are more susceptible to flexing under pressure. This, when combined with the larger windows that are commonly found in modern sailing vessels, makes the rebated substrate area around the windows more susceptible to failure." Seems they mean the vessel wasn't seaworthy. So even if the storm covers had been fitted they would have needed substantial engineering attachment to stop them being blown out.
    1 point
  26. Walk up the local telephone exchange with a bottle of rum.........worked every time on News Years Day in Hobart in the 70's.
    1 point
  27. https://www.maritimenz.govt.nz/commercial/safety/accidents-reporting/accident-reports/documents/Essence-mnz-report-22July2021.pdf
    1 point
  28. Any public figure like Dalton has will have supporters and detractors, he has done an absolutely remarkable job winning the cup back and defending it. Team New Zealand is an organisation that people want to work for and that says a lot about the culture, thats not what we are discussing though. If I recall TNZ demanded money from the public, so we invested in the defence expecting that if they won that TNZ would host a second defence here. Covid threw a force majeure spanner into the works so the promised spin offs for the local economy didnt happen this time. You could say that it was a
    1 point
  29. It's an orbit plane. The Satellites aren't located over a population they are located on a plane that loosely cuts through either side of the North and south poles. Each satellite circles earth once every (approximately) 100minutes. Currently each orbit plane has 22 satellites and there are 72 planes. Starlink already has 'global coverage'. You can see a satellite at all times from anywhere on earth (except the poles). The only reason that it isn't truly global yet is because the satellites cannot always see an neighbouring satellite or a base station, so the satellite you can
    1 point
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