TwoSail 1 Posted January 14, 2019 Report Share Posted January 14, 2019 Going to sell the family Caravan on water (no its not that bad, its one of the lighter ones so can sail upwind lol) and downgrade to a Mono for just myself and the Mrs. I really want to use a LOT of the cash from the sale for our retirement fund, but at the same time I dont want to buy something old in need of work.Im thinking 100-150K~ 32ft+, can be sailed single handed and electronically from the cockpit, must have a wheel, tillers are for dinghies. Something that can handle offshore conditions but be very comfy inside the living areas. If I had the money Id buy a Amel Super Maramu but thats 2/3 the cost of the cat haha.I think I want something as new as possible, not some stinky old seating and moldy cabins haha.I realise there isnt a lot for that money but if I can get as close to 20 years and younger as possible the better.Any ideas? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Priscilla II 246 Posted January 14, 2019 Report Share Posted January 14, 2019 You lost me with "tillers are for dinghies". Maybe you should be in the market for a stinkpot. armchairadmiral 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Sabre 337 Posted January 14, 2019 Report Share Posted January 14, 2019 Weren’t you looking for advice on buying a Cat a few days ago? In the other thread you said you hadn’t owned a Cat before and now your selling one? Am I missing something? WarLord and Kiwifish 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Fish 648 Posted January 14, 2019 Report Share Posted January 14, 2019 can be sailed single handed and electronically from the cockpit, must have a wheel, tillers are for dinghies. You lost me with "tillers are for dinghies". Maybe you should be in the market for a stinkpot. I've never heard of a yacht that can be sailed electronically, accept maybe those 1 m RC ones. Especially not in the 20 yr age bracket and the budget mentioned. I'm sure some superyachts have glass bridges etc, Some of the latest Euro imports can sail and tack on AP alone, but you'd be lucky to get change out of $3/4 of a mil (and are targeted at people who don't know how to sail) But as for the 'tillers are for dinghies', you did say 32 ft plus... a wheel is a major waste of time and space in that size range. Possibly legit once you start getting around the 40 ft size. But I think Pracilla has hit it. I've always thought wheels are for people who can't really sail. What you are describing is a stink pot. You can get a fair bit of boat for your money in that budget for a stink pot. The big variable is age and condition of the engine. But for cruising with you and the Mrs, you could get loads of boat. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
GregW 19 Posted January 14, 2019 Report Share Posted January 14, 2019 Twosail; what catamaran are you selling/replacing? Kiwifish 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Crazyhorse 47 Posted January 14, 2019 Report Share Posted January 14, 2019 You lost me with "tillers are for dinghies". Maybe you should be in the market for a stinkpot. I dont have a tiller on our dinghy!?? I do on our keeler. Always know my rudder settings and can change rudder angle rapidly. It folds up out of the way. Adds to the washing line on laundry days. The bait board clamps to it and doubles as a cockpit table. Only needs a removable tiller pilot to have "electronic" (or is that chronic) stearing. Old boats are about the same as a new boat getting old for maintanance time and costs. Old kauri keelers are getting harder to find, good ones, and have a "warmness" about them compared to your plastic fantastic. Hand built or out of a mold? Nothing like a double diagonal stinkpot! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
waikiore 74 Posted January 14, 2019 Report Share Posted January 14, 2019 Sounds like you need a launch, though yachts under 35' are cheaper here than anywhere in the world whereas launches in glass are dearer. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
lateral 112 Posted January 14, 2019 Report Share Posted January 14, 2019 Wheels are downright alien. But I have a tiller so I'm biased. Love the feeling of balance. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Dtwo 114 Posted January 14, 2019 Report Share Posted January 14, 2019 But I think Pracilla has hit it. I've always thought wheels are for people who can't really sail. Agree. Hmmph, amateurs! Sabre 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Sabre 337 Posted January 14, 2019 Report Share Posted January 14, 2019 Do cat sailers ever go back to mono hulls? On the wheel thing I can definitely see the appeal in a bigger boat. Interesting that kiwis in general just don’t like them where as Europeans love them. Probably a little impractical on my 26fter.... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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