MarkMT 68 Posted September 14, 2019 Share Posted September 14, 2019 Interesting to see how different American Magic's foil design is from TNZ... via Sail-World https://www.sail-world.com/news/222034/Americas-Cup-American-Magic-sailing-images More images here: https://farevela.net/2019/09/14/american-magic-le-foto-dei-dettagli-dellac75-americano/ 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
chariot 244 Posted September 14, 2019 Share Posted September 14, 2019 Looks like a modified 12m keels. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ex Elly 243 Posted September 15, 2019 Share Posted September 15, 2019 Haha, did Ben Lexcen design those? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
B00B00 322 Posted September 15, 2019 Share Posted September 15, 2019 I would say those foils are just training ones with extra weight added in the form of the bulbs to stop it from capsizing. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Island Time 1,288 Posted September 15, 2019 Share Posted September 15, 2019 Yeah, seems likely. IIRC the foil arms to be used are standard across the teams, so does that mean the foil main arm only then, or the T foil arms? I guess you can practice/learn with whatever, but you need to use the supplied ones for the racing? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
MartinRF 64 Posted September 15, 2019 Share Posted September 15, 2019 Kelp harvesting? /Martin Quote Link to post Share on other sites
El Toro 110 Posted September 15, 2019 Share Posted September 15, 2019 Foil arms yes, but appendages attached to them no Quote Link to post Share on other sites
180S 20 Posted September 16, 2019 Share Posted September 16, 2019 I know there is a limit on the number of foils that can be used (6 ?) and a sand box shape that they must fall within, but is there anything to prevent articulating the wing on the end of the foil arm. Looking at this bulb on AM would it give a variable range of lift control with a single foil ? Photo from https://i1.wp.com/www.catsailingnews.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/09/AC75AmericanMagicDroneSail-1.jpg?ssl=1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
MarkMT 68 Posted September 16, 2019 Author Share Posted September 16, 2019 The class rule refers to "foil flaps" that are apparently connected to the foil wing and are moveable. https://drive.google.com/file/d/1xZRwGU-q4zGlD1jfStdY2kpzVB9PM96w/view As far as I can see, the foils we've seen so far don't have them, so I guess there's stuff still under wraps. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
180S 20 Posted September 17, 2019 Share Posted September 17, 2019 Thx MMT So the class rules on Foil Flap are very rigid, limits it to a plane wing type flap, only there to get the wing up or down. No feathering then. Would make it quick to move thru a tack. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
erice 732 Posted July 25, 2020 Share Posted July 25, 2020 Expect big changes for American Magic’s second boat they hope will win back the America’s Cup for the New York Yacht Club. The syndicate are fully operational in Auckland now and expected to ramp up testing and training on their original AC75 Defiant over the coming week. Their second boat will be air-freighted to New Zealand and they hope to have it in the water by October. https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/americas-cup/122236132/americas-cup-dean-barker-signals-big-changes-for-american-magics-new-boat Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ex Elly 243 Posted July 26, 2020 Share Posted July 26, 2020 Yes and another American team, want to use one TeamNZ's old boat. But wouldn't that break the rules of country of origin, as per deed of gift? https://www.newshub.co.nz/home/sport/2020/07/america-s-cup-2021-stars-stripes-seek-team-nz-boat-for-challenger-series.html?fbclid=IwAR33H1SIw_LeJeh8F-bVfOnp5h40qyGrFxGWTYzIoADFImBNs87B1RXfAr8 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Dave 11 Posted July 26, 2020 Share Posted July 26, 2020 That's awesome! And good on them for thinking outside the box, the more the merrier for the LV. Wouldn't it be a hoot if the Cup was contested between Te Aihe and the next boat. Sadly I reckon the other three teams might not be so receptive... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Priscilla II 416 Posted July 27, 2020 Share Posted July 27, 2020 On 26/07/2020 at 8:23 PM, Dave said: the more the merrier for the LV. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Dave 11 Posted July 27, 2020 Share Posted July 27, 2020 Whoops, my bad. Been a handbag fight there somewhere... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
erice 732 Posted July 28, 2020 Share Posted July 28, 2020 starting to get interesting! https://www.nzherald.co.nz/sport/news/article.cfm?c_id=4&objectid=12351764 video of the big american foiler beating the smaller kiwi boat but not by much Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Terry B 73 Posted July 31, 2020 Share Posted July 31, 2020 Came back from Waiheke to Westhaven yesterday after a 5 day tiki tour on the boat (lovely it was too). And the Yanks were foiling around out between Rangi and Browns Island. It's a beast. I (very unscientifically) timed it going from browns to Rangi wharf area in less than 2 minutes. Chase boats struggling to keep up (it looked like it anyway). And, at the time, I had rolled the sails away as there was sweet FA wind (although it was from behind me). Quote Link to post Share on other sites
erice 732 Posted August 31, 2020 Share Posted August 31, 2020 American Magic’s second generation America’s Cup boat is on its way to Auckland. The 75-foot boat is being flown in a chartered cargo plane for its trip to New Zealand from the boatbuilding yard in Rhode Island on the east coast of the United States. The boat will be the one American Magic use for the Prada Cup challenger series. The boat’s swift arrival in Auckland again signals the precision of the syndicate that is backed by the powerful New York Yacht Club. American Magic’s Kiwi helmsman Dean Barker has hinted at big changes on their new boat, saying: “It definitely looks different, there will be no mistaking which one is which.” They were the first challengers to set up base in Auckland, having been sailing Defiant on the Waitemata Harbour and Hauraki Gulf regularly since July. https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/americas-cup/122623241/americas-cup-american-magics-second-ac75-flies-to-auckland Quote Link to post Share on other sites
AJ Oliver 155 Posted October 19, 2020 Share Posted October 19, 2020 Looks like I will be rooting for ya Kiwis again. I cannot abide the business practices of Richare DeVos. Turns out that Amway is also present in Aotearoa. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Steve Pope 253 Posted October 19, 2020 Share Posted October 19, 2020 2 hours ago, AJ Oliver said: Looks like I will be rooting for ya Kiwis again. I cannot abide the business practices of Richare DeVos. Turns out that Amway is also present in Aotearoa. Amway has been here forever, pretty low profile now, compared to 30 years ago though. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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