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we got side tracked in the depression thread so I thought I would start a new one to continue the discussion.

HT asked about standardising location of the indicator stalk. This will never happen, Europe requires it to be on the LH side of the column regardless of whether the car is RHD or LHD, while Japan's local market wants it on the right (altho imports there do not have to change), as did the Australian market.

The European manufacturers won't change in general just because they do not want to spend the money to re-engineer the column and there is not enough market pressure for them to do so.

Like everything motoring is ever evolving, remember in the old days you could get your licence at 15 ( I read of one character who presented himself at the cop shop at 9.00am on the day of his 15th birthday for his test - and passed), but it had to be a manual car! Now probably 2/3's of drivers cannot drive a manual (I learnt on a 3 on the tree Kingswood) and a police mate of mine said most of the young cops do not know how to change a flat tyre!  

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I once rode motorcycles.  This was a fav almost entirely because of its outrageous paintwork.  It certainly wasn't because of its pinpoint accurate handling!

I only owned it a short time - its ability to turn petrol and oil into smoke outstripped my ability to feed it.

 Picture is not mine, but it is identical in almost every respect.

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you can also take fuel and turn it into heat, a few here might remember the turbine cars from the 50's and 60's

unfortunately their fuel consumption makes a fire breathing HSV Commodore look economical.

The P6 Rover had a weird front suspension to accommodate a turbine

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2 hours ago, BOIGuy said:

That would be Nuclear / Oil / Coal Electric Power, probably not popular around here.

if we were big enough for nuclear, I wouldn't look back.  Make those atoms do a decent days work is my opinion.  Cleaner than coal, more reliable that solar and wind, smaller footprint than hydro.

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we can learn from the cautious scandis

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nuclear_power_in_Finland   5.5 million   30% nuc power

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nuclear_power_in_Sweden   10.1 million,  40% nuc power

denmark 5.8 million, no nuc power stations

https://www.world-nuclear.org/information-library/country-profiles/countries-a-f/denmark.aspx

norway 5.4 million,  no nuc power stations

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nuclear_energy_in_Norway

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I've owned something like 30 or more motorbikes, I am not sure what the attraction is but it's not too much of a stretch to imagine that there is something similar in the physical sensations to sailing.  Whatever it is, there is some kind of magic that happens on two wheels that's as addictive as sailing.

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16 minutes ago, erice said:

we can learn from the cautious scandis

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nuclear_power_in_Finland   5.5 million   30% nuc power

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nuclear_power_in_Sweden   10.1 million,  40% nuc power

denmark 5.8 million, no nuc power stations

https://www.world-nuclear.org/information-library/country-profiles/countries-a-f/denmark.aspx

norway 5.4 million,  no nuc power stations

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nuclear_energy_in_Norway

So Norway and Denmark share generation resources, and Denmark shares with the rest of Europe.

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about 25 years ago i read a book all about Chernobyl. about the first half of the book ran through the ins and outs of nuclear power stations and i recall that there were different types/methods used but some of the (earlier?) types needed 450 years of being fully manned after they were de-commissioned to prevent a meltdown... I'm sure the modern ones will be a lot better but who wants to let that gennie out of the bottle

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31 minutes ago, Psyche said:

I've owned something like 30 or more motorbikes, I am not sure what the attraction is but it's not too much of a stretch to imagine that there is something similar in the physical sensations to sailing.  Whatever it is, there is some kind of magic that happens on two wheels that's as addictive as sailing.

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There is some sort of addiction that goes with it that makes me gear up in the thermals at least a couple of times a week to ride to work in these current low temperatures, even though there is a 4 wheel tin box with a heater sitting right beside the bike in the garage

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Same here, any excuse. I read somewhere that the leaning sensations release endorphins and make you feel happy, maybe so  but there is no doubt that you always feel good after a ride.

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still no one knows what to do with the waste

canada - In 2005, the NWMO decided to build a deep repository dedicated to store the spent nuclear fuel underground. The $24 billion price tag of this 500- to 1000-metre underground vault is to be paid by a trust fund backed by the nuclear production companies. The spent fuel bundles would be placed in steel baskets wrapped together 3 by 3 (324 fuel bundles total) in corrosion resistant copper to form containers designed to last at least a 100,000 years. 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nuclear_power_in_Canada

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when i was younger i wanted to fly

all of the; swooping, climbing, banking, wind in the face freedom appealed

but top gun never happened and cessnas + commercial aviation seemed very constrained 

however motorcycling ended up being the best source of those vitamins 

currently enjoying the back roads

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