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managed to dig a few pics out....Possibly the best day i've had exploring on the bike. i recall a few months after we were there they had something like 450mm rain in a day and the road in was wiped out for the medium/long term..

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Another Bikie here. I raced an H2 and a Z1 in the late 70's. Wasn't very good ! Now riding a Multistrada as I can't ride sports bikes anymore (999 was my last)

I think riding a bike around a corner well is the same feeling you get sailing a boat on the wind when you've managed to get it in the groove.

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heard a dunedin? scientist on the radio this morning saying the huge green-hydrogen plant at tiwai just isn't going to happen

apparently the science experiment they would like to scale up would require A LOT of platinum

not a metal in great supply... 

Fast forward five years and gold now is more than double the price of platinum, even as platinum is considered to be 30 times rarer than gold, and more expensive to mine, Caruso said.

https://www.marketwatch.com/story/green-hydrogen-is-opening-doors-for-higher-platinum-demand-11605902071

might be time to swap my hoarded toilet rolls for platinum

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There are some seriously big hitters trying to get Tiwai off the ground with green hydrogen.

Thats not to say it will happen, but some people with extremely deep pockets are def having a good gander at it.

if its possible to pull it off, Im all for it.

Remove the sludge then export 'free' power and keep all the jobs, or words to that effect.

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i seem to remember muldoon's "think big" motunui methanol plant took natural gas that could run a car 500?km

and turned it into synthetic petrol that would run a car 200?km

(rather than turn that science project into a factory it would have been better/cheaper to simply give nz'ers free cng/lpg conversions for their cars)

https://teara.govt.nz/en/photograph/8935/motunui-synthetic-petrol-plant

https://teara.govt.nz/en/oil-and-gas/page-5

Efficiency[edit]

In 2013, the round-trip efficiency of power-to-gas-storage was well below 50%, with the hydrogen path being able to reach a maximum efficiency of ~ 43% and methane of ~ 39% by using combined-cycle powerplants.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Power-to-gas

the loss back then was supposed to be worthwhile because we already had cars that ran on petrol and a petrol network  

...

seems to me tiwai risks taking electricity that would run a car 500km and turning it into hydrogen to run a car 200km

and we don't yet have cars with fuel cells (far more complex than attaching a simple cng/lng conversion or a hydrogen network (vastly more complex and difficult to store than cng/lpg......hydrogen boiling point -253C)

https://www.energy.gov/eere/fuelcells/hydrogen-storage-basics-0

https://energy.nl/en/fact_sheet/liquefied-hydrogen-storage/

it will be interesting to see how it all pans out

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1 hour ago, erice said:

i seem to remember muldoon's "think big" motunui methanol plant took natural gas that could run a car 500?km

and turned it into synthetic petrol that would run a car 200?km

(rather than turn that science project into a factory it would have been better/cheaper to simply give nz'ers free cng/lpg conversions for their cars)

https://teara.govt.nz/en/photograph/8935/motunui-synthetic-petrol-plant

https://teara.govt.nz/en/oil-and-gas/page-5

Efficiency[edit]

In 2013, the round-trip efficiency of power-to-gas-storage was well below 50%, with the hydrogen path being able to reach a maximum efficiency of ~ 43% and methane of ~ 39% by using combined-cycle powerplants.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Power-to-gas

the loss back then was supposed to be worthwhile because we already had cars that ran on petrol and a petrol network  

...

seems to me tiwai risks taking electricity that would run a car 500km and turning it into hydrogen to run a car 200km

and we don't yet have cars with fuel cells (far more complex than attaching a simple cng/lng conversion or a hydrogen network (vastly more complex and difficult to store than cng/lpg......hydrogen boiling point -253C)

https://www.energy.gov/eere/fuelcells/hydrogen-storage-basics-0

https://energy.nl/en/fact_sheet/liquefied-hydrogen-storage/

it will be interesting to see how it all pans out

Totally get what you are saying erice and largely agree, but Manapouri has some technical issues if it is grid-tied.  It could be (and I'm happy to be corrected) that the losses in conversion are acceptable when measured against the cost of getting the generation plant hooked into the network including transmission line upgrades, synchronisation etc

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14 hours ago, aardvarkash10 said:

Totally get what you are saying erice and largely agree, but Manapouri has some technical issues if it is grid-tied.  It could be (and I'm happy to be corrected) that the losses in conversion are acceptable when measured against the cost of getting the generation plant hooked into the network including transmission line upgrades, synchronisation etc

Manapouri is connected to the national grid i.e. it is in your terms grid tied and always has been.

See grid map below.

https://www.transpower.co.nz/sites/default/files/bulk-upload/documents/Substation Locator map.pdf

The only issues associated with an exit of Tiwai are the lines (generally) heading to Benmore and the HVDC link.

The initial work to address the issue to Benmore are either completed or underway.

 

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I spent around 12 years racing off road, mx and hare scrambles. I mainly rode Suzukis and sometimes got a chance to ride Greg Brinck's (NZ no.1 at the time) RM400 that had been fully worked by the legendary Dick Lawton from Lawton & Boyle (Wgtn)

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4 hours ago, dutyfree said:

Manapouri is connected to the national grid i.e. it is in your terms grid tied and always has been.

See grid map below.

https://www.transpower.co.nz/sites/default/files/bulk-upload/documents/Substation Locator map.pdf

The only issues associated with an exit of Tiwai are the lines (generally) heading to Benmore and the HVDC link.

The initial work to address the issue to Benmore are either completed or underway.

 

Thanks for that - I understood that Manapouri was direct feed to Tiwai only.

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4 hours ago, dutyfree said:

Manapouri is connected to the national grid i.e. it is in your terms grid tied and always has been.

See grid map below.

https://www.transpower.co.nz/sites/default/files/bulk-upload/documents/Substation Locator map.pdf

The only issues associated with an exit of Tiwai are the lines (generally) heading to Benmore and the HVDC link.

The initial work to address the issue to Benmore are either completed or underway.

 

Ngawha geothermal not shown on that plan? 

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