rossd 16 Posted November 10, 2019 Share Posted November 10, 2019 In another thread i said I had an Avon inflatable and just brought a seagull O/B . Some one replied saying basically why the hell any one would buy one of them? mind you they do have there supporters. I couldnt think of a short answer so how about a long one. For 13 years I have owned a double diagonal Kauri mid 70s Nova 28 which is an extremely sedate craft made even slower with bilge keels. At first I had grand ideas of upgrading everything, new engine, electronics, furling sails, new sails etc. But after a while i thought whats the point , none of it is really going to make her go faster although somethings make things safer so moved a bit there. So the question is what is the purpose of owning such craft, its certainly not an appreciating asset, so it all boils down to preservation of a bit of history. I find it somewhat sad to see kauri yachts and launches for that matter rotting away so the main mission is keeping fresh water from getting into the decks and below which in the long run takes a sh*t load of money and time. Once they deteriorate to a certain point you have lost it. So I am increasingly keeping her as original as possible, original yanmar single diesel, hanked on sails , even get a bit excited when I find pulley blocks in the parts box with Made In New Zealand on them so on they go rather than those colourfull holey jobs. Thats not to say I havent given up on some things, she had a mechanical wasp log that i gave up on . I used to use a bit of cord with a weight to find anchorage depths in the Gulf which was kind of rewarding in some strange way. Have now got electronic depth and speed but ironically cannot get it to work yet. Never had a plotter but used paper charts and a pencil with a tramping GPS. Have only sailed the gulf and Gt Barrier. So with all that in mind that is why I have an Avon and seagull. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Quattro 15 Posted November 10, 2019 Share Posted November 10, 2019 Good on you. Im struggling to keep a late 70s boat in shape, but it is worthwhile. Mind you, i do like the upgrades 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Black Panther 1,776 Posted November 10, 2019 Share Posted November 10, 2019 Where's the like button 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Fish 0 Posted November 10, 2019 Share Posted November 10, 2019 What you are talking about is an appreciation of art. Some people think art is bright colours and paint on a wall, but art is much wider and more diverse than that. Its something about 'form and function' that comes with things that have a use, but also looks good, or has proportion, or what ever element makes it attractive in an artistic way. The best way I can describe it is the pleasure in driving something like an old HJ Holden, big bench seats, column shift. You compare it to a modern car and those holdens were shithouse, but there is still something about the tactile feel, the smell, the sound, the simplicity of the mechanicals. You don't get that in a modern car, sure you get climate control, ABS, cruise control and central locking, but you feel removed from the environment, somehow detached. We have a 35 yr old kauri log, and I have often likened it to driving an old Holden, its not flash, its not that comfy compared to other options, it needs a lot of maintenance, but it is damn satisfying 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
John B 116 Posted November 10, 2019 Share Posted November 10, 2019 Ours will be 45 next year. Smashed our way out of Fiji a month ago, doesn't creak or groan, all the cupboard doors open, scantlings that make some of the modern brands look like ice cream containers. A fast cruiser in 1975 and still quick enough . 6.5 days navula pass to the ninepin. These old boats are built to another level and by world class boat builders, they're worth the effort. 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
w44vi 18 Posted November 10, 2019 Share Posted November 10, 2019 They were built to a standard not a price 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Priscilla II 450 Posted November 10, 2019 Share Posted November 10, 2019 Wooden log artist. https://www.pressreader.com/new-zealand/boating-nz/20170301/283523681160486 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
rossd 16 Posted November 11, 2019 Author Share Posted November 11, 2019 Well priscilla just looked up that link on Phillip Wilson. Can never remember who built Mahoe so just looked up a survey report I have dated 1988 and it says built by Phillip Wilson and “supposedly” launched in 1978. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
twisty 176 Posted November 11, 2019 Share Posted November 11, 2019 I have a mate who owns a Beale. He is always a bit disparaging of it. I keep telling him that in 50 years it will be seen as a 1980's Logan along with Townson's Youngs etc Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Priscilla II 450 Posted November 11, 2019 Share Posted November 11, 2019 I have a mate who owns a Beale. He is always a bit disparaging of it. I keep telling him that in 50 years it will be seen as a 1980's Logan along with Townson's Youngs etc Did that change his disparaging view of his Beale. One of my favourites Wilson kauri logs has been on the market for a while Quintessence. The broker deserves a keel hauling for such a poor effort on the listing and really should sharpen his pencil. https://www.trademe.co.nz/trade-me-motors/boats-marine/yachts/keeler/auction-2385946296.htm Quote Link to post Share on other sites
marinheiro 365 Posted November 11, 2019 Share Posted November 11, 2019 Did that change his disparaging view of his Beale. One of my favourites Wilson kauri logs has been on the market for a while Quintessence. The broker deserves a keel hauling for such a poor effort on the listing and really should sharpen his pencil. https://www.trademe.co.nz/trade-me-motors/boats-marine/yachts/keeler/auction-2385946296.htm you are mixing your Wilsons there, Quintessence was by Bob and Richard, Brin's sons. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Black Panther 1,776 Posted November 11, 2019 Share Posted November 11, 2019 First word of text is wrong. It's no embarrassment to be poor at spelling/English, but if you are, get a bloody proof reader. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Deep Purple 530 Posted November 11, 2019 Share Posted November 11, 2019 you are mixing your Wilsons there, Quintessence was by Bob and Richard, Brin's sons. It was built by Brin Wilson Boatbuilders, Wairau Road, I visited it often. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Priscilla II 450 Posted November 11, 2019 Share Posted November 11, 2019 you are mixing your Wilsons there, Quintessence was by Bob and Richard, Brin's sons. All Wilson’s in my book Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Priscilla II 450 Posted November 11, 2019 Share Posted November 11, 2019 First word of text is wrong. It's no embarrassment to be poor at spelling/English, but if you are, get a bloody proof reader. And some glasses too, crikey amateur out of focus ,repeated photos with poor range selection not how one should present a Clark/Wilson beauty. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Island Time 1,313 Posted November 11, 2019 Share Posted November 11, 2019 Personally I'd have nothing whatsoever to do with that broker..... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
MarkMT 68 Posted November 11, 2019 Share Posted November 11, 2019 He's not the worst I've dealt with in Auckland. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Clipper 375 Posted November 11, 2019 Share Posted November 11, 2019 “ All Boat Brokerage professional experience and attention to detail ”...... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
John B 116 Posted November 11, 2019 Share Posted November 11, 2019 The Clark 42s are magnificent sea boats and were high standard builds. You load them up with your 6 months of cruising stores and they don't go slower. Lazy 150 through 180 mile days. The last time I saw Quintessence she'd had a whole lot spent on paint and was in spectacular condition. See, if you want to go cruising, and you'd like to do that safely and make prompt passages in a boat you can trust to stay together when it hits the fan, that's the boat to be in. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Fogg 427 Posted November 11, 2019 Share Posted November 11, 2019 Did that change his disparaging view of his Beale. One of my favourites Wilson kauri logs has been on the market for a while Quintessence. The broker deserves a keel hauling for such a poor effort on the listing and really should sharpen his pencil. https://www.trademe.co.nz/trade-me-motors/boats-marine/yachts/keeler/auction-2385946296.htm Many brokers need keel-hauling. Especially this one. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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