Enlightenment 18 Posted June 27, 2023 Share Posted June 27, 2023 YUP, Thanks for all the advice, the trailer sailer seems the best fit for adventure projects as it is easy to tow between harbors and certainly more core effective without all the red tape that comes with a keelboat. 20ft Pelin Caribou 15hp Hidea Yamaha clone outboard with long shaft high thrust prop Aircat 335 inflatable with Suzuki 8hp and I just purchased a 1.8m PVC tender with oars. 3 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
LBD 128 Posted June 29, 2023 Share Posted June 29, 2023 Removed rudder and replaced the copper sheeting that protects the dead wood from bugs n stuff where antifouling cannot reach... Then a little more sanding, priming, sanding, filling...... more sanding, undercoating, sanding, top coating × 2, boot topping and antifouling....and splash. 1 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Steve Pope 243 Posted June 30, 2023 Share Posted June 30, 2023 On 28/06/2023 at 11:12 AM, Enlightenment said: YUP, Thanks for all the advice, the trailer sailer seems the best fit for adventure projects as it is easy to tow between harbors and certainly more core effective without all the red tape that comes with a keelboat. 20ft Pelin Caribou 15hp Hidea Yamaha clone outboard with long shaft high thrust prop Aircat 335 inflatable with Suzuki 8hp and I just purchased a 1.8m PVC tender with oars. I suggest that you consider getting tube covers for the PVC tender if you wish it to last., PVC fails very quickly in NZ summers unlike Hypalon which can cope a lot better without a cover. I had one with PVC tubes and within 2 years it was stuffed, replaced with Hypalon and it is still OK and unaffected by UV after 12 years. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Island Time 1,235 Posted June 30, 2023 Share Posted June 30, 2023 4 minutes ago, Steve Pope said: I suggest that you consider getting tube covers for the PVC tender if you wish it to last., PVC fails very quickly in NZ summers unlike Hypalon which can cope a lot better without a cover. I had one with PVC tubes and within 2 years it was stuffed, replaced with Hypalon and it is still OK and unaffected by UV after 12 years. Cheap crap PVC doesn’t last. Some of the best PVC’s are pretty good. Hypalon (brand name) is no longer made, current high end inflatables use TPU. But I had a PVC one that did 13 years. Next one (budget) did 3. Now I have a TPU one… Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Black Panther 1,586 Posted June 30, 2023 Share Posted June 30, 2023 I went the other route i buy a new one every three years at 1/4 the price . I think 3 yrs is good as almost continuous use. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
K4309 257 Posted June 30, 2023 Share Posted June 30, 2023 My cheap PVC dink is lasting very well. But it is stored out of the sun and weather (in a dinghy locker). I think its 3 to 5 yrs old. What I can say is, based on talking to the supplier at the boat show, the replacement price has doubled. So based on the current rate of inflation, how old does that make it? 6 months? If left in the sun, these ones go to sh*t very quickly. Also, sunblock softens the plastiziers in the PVC. If you lather the sproglets in sunblock and then all jump in the dink to go to the beach, it gets all over the tubes. There are 3 solutions, wash the dinghy down with soap and water, put towels or covers over the tubes where the sproglets are lying, or just don't have sproglets. Something to bear in mind for longer service life of your dink. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Black Panther 1,586 Posted July 1, 2023 Share Posted July 1, 2023 I've thought about getting some vinyl (it's cheap) and some contact cement and covering the top half. Should last at least 12 months Quote Link to post Share on other sites
K4309 257 Posted July 1, 2023 Share Posted July 1, 2023 26 minutes ago, Black Panther said: and some contact cement and covering the top half. Are you talking about a ferro dinghy here? Might have some merits for a dinghy permanently in the water. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Black Panther 1,586 Posted July 1, 2023 Share Posted July 1, 2023 Just the same crap vinyl the dinghy is made of. The problem is a glue that works. But consider it disposable and a spray can of contact glue might last a year, then do it again. I can get lots of pretty coloured offcuts nearly free. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Romany 162 Posted July 1, 2023 Share Posted July 1, 2023 I've just binned the remnants of my old SP Inflatable and will not be going back to blow up anythings. Its the real deal for this boy from now on. Plywood dinghy, GF (with luck her indoors wont find out 😉), full cream milk. actual coffee, sugar if i feel like it, full bodied red wines, blue vein cheese, steak n kidney pies - all the good sh*t. If i were doing what u suggest BP - I'd get a catalysed contact,suitable for plastised vinyl, the same vinyl as the tubes. Do it outside & have loads of carbon activated masks at your side. In my experience catalyst is iso cynate based - its nasty stuff. Or just get a polyethylene dinghy (smartwave or sim) and use it for day to day. The weigh about a ton but seem indestructible 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
harrytom 643 Posted July 1, 2023 Share Posted July 1, 2023 2 hours ago, Romany said: full cream milk. actual coffee, sugar if i feel like it, full bodied red wines, blue vein cheese, steak n kidney pies - all the good sh*t. now you're talking,still some die hards left .thank goodness,thought I was on my own🙃 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Priscilla II 392 Posted July 2, 2023 Share Posted July 2, 2023 Can’t get the TM link to paste. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Enlightenment 18 Posted July 2, 2023 Share Posted July 2, 2023 Because I will be moving with the trailer a sailer from harbor to harbor regularly to do filming of adventure and fishing missions and also doing a lot of land-based documentaries and interviews about places like campgrounds etc. and with people of interest I will not be full-time sailing and boating for the whole summer. My main concern with the two boats the 2 m and the 3.35 m inflatable's, both will have to be inflated and deflated regularly. I don't have as much experience with inflatable boats as you guys so could you please give me the heads up about whether or these boats can be inflated and deflated regularly or does that damage them and shorten their serviceability. In the end these cheap boats only last as long as they last, and not much can be done, but hope I can get some tips that might help to extend their usability. Thanks again places of interest for missions in North of NZ You all would be the best possible source of advice for the best locations of interest. When I do short documentaries I will not divulge the locations or personal info, I just shoot images to support my stories because I don't want to popularize the special places. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Black Panther 1,586 Posted July 2, 2023 Share Posted July 2, 2023 I would take care to keep them out of the sun when not in use. Otherwise go for it. Ps the pumps don't last if they get wet. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
K4309 257 Posted July 2, 2023 Share Posted July 2, 2023 10 hours ago, Enlightenment said: Because I will be moving with the trailer a sailer from harbor to harbor regularly to do filming of adventure and fishing missions and also doing a lot of land-based documentaries and interviews about places like campgrounds etc. and with people of interest I will not be full-time sailing and boating for the whole summer. My main concern with the two boats the 2 m and the 3.35 m inflatable's, both will have to be inflated and deflated regularly. I don't have as much experience with inflatable boats as you guys so could you please give me the heads up about whether or these boats can be inflated and deflated regularly or does that damage them and shorten their serviceability. In the end these cheap boats only last as long as they last, and not much can be done, but hope I can get some tips that might help to extend their usability. Thanks again places of interest for missions in North of NZ You all would be the best possible source of advice for the best locations of interest. When I do short documentaries I will not divulge the locations or personal info, I just shoot images to support my stories because I don't want to popularize the special places. Deflating and inflating regularly wont hurt them at all. Things that might puncture or rip the PVC will, which is possibly a greater risk on how you roll them up, where you store them and what you inflate them on (i.e. gravel, instead of grass). Overall, deflating them and storing them so that they are out of the sun will be far far better than leaving them inflated in the sun. Good practice to have a brush / broom handy when you roll them up, so you can get off any grit, sand or stones that might rub / chaff the pvc when it is rolled up and squashed into a storage spot somewhere. You might get sick of the physical effort of pumping them up regularly. You can get 12v electric pumps designed for paddleboards, about $2-$300 I think. These are excellent in that you can get a good high pressure to keep them stiff. I have an air-floor in my inflatable (same as a paddle board basically). The electric pump can get it to 12 bar (good and stiff), where as a regular dinghy foot pump is probably about 2 bar. Noting you wont want to take your dinghy tubes past 3 bar (maybe less depending on the manufacturer). As a note for anyone getting an inflatable paddleboard, pumping them up by hand is an absolute ball-ache. The electric pump is really the only way to get the pressure into them to make them stiff, so that they perform as designed. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Enlightenment 18 Posted July 2, 2023 Share Posted July 2, 2023 Because I will be moving with the trailer a sailer from harbor to harbor regularly to do filming of adventure and fishing missions and also doing a lot of land-based documentaries and interviews about places like campgrounds etc. and with people of interest I will not be full-time sailing and boating for the whole summer. My main concern with the two boats the 2 m and the 3.35 m inflatable's, both will have to be inflated and deflated regularly. I don't have as much experience with inflatable boats as you guys so could you please give me the heads up about whether or these boats can be inflated and deflated regularly or does that damage them and shorten their serviceability. In the end these cheap boats only last as long as they last, and not much can be done, but hope I can get some tips that might help to extend their usability. Thanks again places of interest for missions in North of NZ You all would be the best possible source of advice for the best locations of interest. When I do short documentaries I will not divulge the locations or personal info, I just shoot images to support my stories because I don't want to popularize the special places. Thanks for the good advice! that gives me a lot of confidence about inflatables Quote Link to post Share on other sites
LBD 128 Posted July 4, 2023 Share Posted July 4, 2023 On 27/06/2023 at 6:36 PM, Black Panther said: We paid for soda blasting. Half a day and cheaper than a week of fees at GH. I am just aboyt finishing the 18 month haul out touch up and antifoul, I suspect I am about 2 years away from the same full bottom paint removal task, but being timber I will use a heat gun and paint scraper... it will be interesting to see how that will compare time and effort wise, when to soda blasting tungsten scraping, paint stripper or other... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Black Panther 1,586 Posted July 9, 2023 Share Posted July 9, 2023 Suffering from separation anxiety Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Black Panther 1,586 Posted July 17, 2023 Share Posted July 17, 2023 I discovered standing on the western shore of the Atlantic looking east you get much the same view as standing on the eastern shore looking west This time the passage took 9hrs which is significantly less than 20 something days last time. But given the state of modern air travel I'd take a Catana 431 over an Airbus any day. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Black Panther 1,586 Posted July 17, 2023 Share Posted July 17, 2023 On both sides I observed attractive young women in three piece bathing suits. (Shoes, sunglasses, hat. Three pieces) 4 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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