Guest Posted October 15, 2011 Share Posted October 15, 2011 Can they dump them overboard in a slightly controlled manner then round them up? Link to post Share on other sites
MarkMT 68 Posted October 15, 2011 Share Posted October 15, 2011 These are the best images I've seen online from the disaster - http://www.theatlantic.com/infocus/2011/10/oil-spill-disaster-on-new-zealand-shoreline/100169/ Link to post Share on other sites
wheels 543 Posted October 15, 2011 Share Posted October 15, 2011 Forget approval, How MUCH will they pay $1,000 per MINUTE aboard Do I hear more bids : : Collection of pay upon completion of job. Link to post Share on other sites
wheels 543 Posted October 16, 2011 Share Posted October 16, 2011 A container washed up at Whakatane today. 90Kms from MV Rena apparently. It is under tow now. I bet they are slow to tow. Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Posted October 16, 2011 Share Posted October 16, 2011 These are the best images I've seen online from the disaster - http://www.theatlantic.com/infocus/2011/10/oil-spill-disaster-on-new-zealand-shoreline/100169/ Makes you realise what a hopeless task the cleaning up of the beaches is. This will not be a pleasant summer in the BOP. Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Posted October 16, 2011 Share Posted October 16, 2011 Those blokes are Heroes for going onboard that hulk. They could get crushed or drowned at any moment. The bloke who was on the helm when she ran aground should be doing it!! Link to post Share on other sites
wheels 543 Posted October 16, 2011 Share Posted October 16, 2011 I reckon it will let go tonight or maybe earlier. I hope they get a great deal of oil off before it does if it does. So they reckon they can pump 15 to 20tonnes of oil per hr. Man that is some pump and even better, hose. Link to post Share on other sites
too_tall 15 Posted October 16, 2011 Share Posted October 16, 2011 The pumps they are using are actually the exact same type I use for disposing of effluent on the farm - a progressing cavity helical pump. And yes, they can pump almost anything which resembles a liquid. Awesome things, and remarkably efficient too. Positive displacement, but with no reciprocating parts. I saw some images of the delivery line they are using, and it appears to be some form of material based layflat pipe - an interesting concept for what I can only assume to be an immense pressure. I have a question that someone may be able to answer - and that would be, why can they not mix the fuel oil with a form of solvent to make it more free flowing, and therefore easier, and faster, to pump? I realize that mixing an entire 1400T of this at one time would pose a challenge probably insurmountable, however, they have the ability to mix it in at the pump, which would surely make the entire operation far easier? Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Posted October 16, 2011 Share Posted October 16, 2011 What on earth are you folks eating out tere Tootall? Its going to take ages to get the oil off at this rate. Maybe they should set it on fire. Link to post Share on other sites
Clipper 343 Posted October 16, 2011 Share Posted October 16, 2011 Here are a few pictures taken from the Awanuia on Sunday. The Awanuia is the tanker ship involved in the off loading of the oil from the Rena Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Posted October 16, 2011 Share Posted October 16, 2011 SO how much will they be able to pump off before the next gale? Link to post Share on other sites
wheels 543 Posted October 17, 2011 Share Posted October 17, 2011 I just got home and checked "stuff" and no real new news. But Grant got told late this afternoon that the Stern has broken away. Can anyone confirm?? Link to post Share on other sites
Farrari 4 Posted October 17, 2011 Share Posted October 17, 2011 TVNZ had published this at 17:05 today Reports that the stranded ship Rena is breaking up have been rejected by Maritime New Zealand (MNZ). MNZ said while the ship's midsection is cracked port and starboard, it is still in one piece and is in the same position as it has been for the past week. Let's hope they are right. Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Posted October 17, 2011 Share Posted October 17, 2011 Just watched the news and weather on TV. They are saying "we are doing our best to get as much of the oil off as possible". My uninformed opinion "Chances are it will break up in this next blow, maybe tonight, they have practically none of the oil off, it could get ten times worse than anything we've seen so far". Hope they are preparing for a BIG oil slick to come ashore. Link to post Share on other sites
wheels 543 Posted October 17, 2011 Share Posted October 17, 2011 Yep I'm pretty certain it will go tonight if it gets to the 30kts they are predicting. Flat as a mill pond there today. It's sad they didn't get more oil off as the weather couldn't get anymore perfect. I feel they may have lost there window. Link to post Share on other sites
grant 40 Posted October 17, 2011 Share Posted October 17, 2011 every tonne they manage to pump off is potentially 5 tonnes of oil and waste (sand, seaweed etc) saved from a beach so it all helps, still a few more days of settled weather would have been nice. Its interesting they say that its still intact, but that's only because its on the reef, I can't see any way that will ever come off except in pieces Link to post Share on other sites
Vorpal Blade 89 Posted October 17, 2011 Share Posted October 17, 2011 Sadly I think part of it may get to stay there and become one of the BOP's new dive attractions. Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Posted October 17, 2011 Share Posted October 17, 2011 Looking at this shot, on the off chance they could drag her off she'd last seconds then go all Titanic on their arses. The front section is 500mm lower than the stern. She's a double hull vessel so if the outside layer looks like that the insides can't be good. If it hasn't already, her back is going to break soon, very soon. Intact my arse, she's fucked!!! Link to post Share on other sites
rigger 47 Posted October 17, 2011 Share Posted October 17, 2011 The front section is 500mm lower than the stern. Higher - that photo shows the port side Link to post Share on other sites
VERGE 1 Posted October 17, 2011 Share Posted October 17, 2011 Extremely sad that such a bad incident has occurred and all the damage it will cause. It really is a pity that industrial chemists havent come up with a way of injecting some chemical/ catalyst that would solidify the fuel oil in some sort of chain reaction to make it inert and immobile. Link to post Share on other sites
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