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43 minutes ago, Dtwo said:

This has always been a ridiculous situation where YNZ source their funding primarily from those who do not benefit from their activities.

Which was the main thrust of my comments up thread 

I benefit greatly from their PHRF system and boat registration which allows me to race in major events . I’m happy to pay the annual fees for handicapping and have nothing but praise for the lovely people that work in that dept .

My club is a “ cruising club” which is struggling to retain its membership and would benefit from having more launch owners . Correct me if I’m wrong but I think the only benefit to launch owners paying their YNZ fee is getting a card that allows you to wander into another affiliated club ?

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I'm sure this story will get someones tits in a tangle. Personally I don't have a problem with it.

The very last line is just like smoking in a gas station though, blatant trolling I'm sure... ;-)

"We don't need learner drivers on fizz boats out here."

https://www.rnz.co.nz/national/programmes/karyn-hay-and-friends/audio/2018744180/life-on-board-during-level-4

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2 hours ago, marinheiro said:

we never seem to hear much from these guys

https://ayba.org.nz/

but I know they do quite alot of lobbying in the background, particularly when the council comes up with another brain fart

They are very active in the AKL boating scene, considerably more so than YNZ. It's a get on and do it organisation, not one that spends precious resources blowing it's own horn.

AYBA help fund the fight to stop the wharf extension (the dolphins), stopped Akl Council using the Unitary plan to sell lost of our waterfront to china, stopped the Unitary plan from stopping us using lots of waters and areas we have, does lots of co-ordinating between the clubs especially around programming, have a legal beagle helping the clubs fight Panuku (YNZ was asked and the response was only 'write us a letter') and a sh*t load more. There are quite a few who to regard AYBA more of a true national body than YNZ.

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My main beef with YNZ is where the fees we pay get spent. And Govt.grants depend on performance mean a  whopping salary bill to pay  mainly for elite sailing as I noted earlier. Putting up fees is easy but cutting costs is an anathema to most bureaucracies and this one is no different.

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Boating Tasmania during lockdown.

https://www.mast.tas.gov.au/covid-19-updated-recreational-boating-guidelines-2/?fbclid=IwAR29My_ZAYgB29xNHB-kZ0YC5RDRYGmXuAf8oQKzdP-76S7rm3wCtZTNlL4

 

Can I stay overnight on my larger cruising boat?

Only if it is your primary residence and you have elected to stay there from 11:59pm on 30 March 2020.

Can I carry out essential maintenance on my boat?

Yes, but if the boat is in a marina please check with the marina manager for conditions that may apply.

 

Fishing etc is still allowed.

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Good to see boaties do have someone advocating for them.

NZ Marine, which is an industry body.

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Government responds to NZ Marine's questions on operating at Level 3


We have received responses from NZ Government/Ministry of Business, Innovation & Employment (MBIE Essential Services; Labour, Science & Enterprise, Director Karl Woodhead) to the questions we posed to Government around certain marine industry activities at Level 3.  We have received a mixed response to our requests.  It appears that any exemptions to the Level 3 stated rules can only be done at Cabinet level.
 

On Friday 24 April, Hon Minister Grant Robertson confirmed that non-motorised boating was allowed under Level 3 and in the weekend it was advised that canoeing, kayaking, rowing, paddle boarding, swimming, snorkelling, surfing and windsurfing is allowed under Level 3. Maybe our persistence was helpful in getting this confirmed.

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Talk about the mouse Family coming to visit and they are all called Mickey.

Sport NZ has just waded in and told NZM we said no to any boating.

So if you do go out quote Grant Robinson as saying it was OK, the Minister of Heath for doing it, The Deputy PM for also doing it and make sure deny any knowledge of Sport NZ even existing. 

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You beat me to it.  As usual devil is always in what these socialist say. 

Was thinking about this overnight and actually S****NZ probably don't have any jurisdiction over what happens on the water.  In Auckland its the Harbourmaster.  No notice to mariners on their website as far as I can see. Fill ya boots!

 

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35 minutes ago, Dtwo said:

From what I heard, 3rd hand, the guy was on the boat in the sounds pre lockdown. He remained in the sounds, on the boat, until he went home, to Wellington, where he and the boat live. He lives aboard permanent. Any issues with that?

Being that it’s a race boat, be hard to live on away from shore for as long as he did IMO.

Another non-story from NZ media, hence no fines / arrests. 

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In all the interactions I have had with the Police in the last 5 weeks, I have been impressed with their professionalism and communication skills.  We are fortunate to be here.

Watching, listening and reading the media's output, not so much.

My headline was tongue in cheek, FYI 8>)

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I think the main issue is that many organisations don't have unified idea of what "boating" is. To some boating is power boating, but of course legally any craft is a boat/ship.

Sport NZ have said for a while that paddlecraft are allowed: https://sportnz.org.nz/assets/Uploads/Play-Active-Recreation-and-Sport-at-Alert-Levels-4-4.pdf

Maritime say the same thing: https://maritimenz.govt.nz/recreational/default.asp

When there's a 1000 activities, businesses, and functions being considered, it seems likely exact wording and such isn't always going to be right straight away. Especially if cabinet/Police/MBIE/whoever go to the wrong people for advice...

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Fark !  !   I wish they would just say that if NZs tens of thousands of bored boaters went out today the risk of ONSHORE transmission would be very high .

Simply saying boating is unsafe just gets everyone’s undies in a knot .    Far too many are taking it as a criticism of their boating skills .

 

 

 

 

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