DrWatson 265 Posted February 17 Share Posted February 17 https://www.rnz.co.nz/news/national/436624/search-on-after-mayday-call-from-yacht-off-coromandel-coast Quote Link to post Share on other sites
eruptn 43 Posted February 17 Share Posted February 17 https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/search-under-way-after-mayday-call-from-sinking-yacht-near-coromandel-peninsula/LDS2XEDGOL6HE4HHELSXK3U7T4/ Sent from my iPad Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Fish 803 Posted February 17 Share Posted February 17 Just saw this on Stuff. 2 people, sinking, call at 6:30 last night. Coordinates said Waiheke, but verbally said east of Coromandel. Very big search area. Navy going full noise on top of CG. Frigate searching through the night by the sounds of it. Not often our warships are used for coastal SAR... https://www.stuff.co.nz/waikato-times/news/124283586/search-continues-for-yacht-missing-off-coromandel-coast-after-mayday-call-sent Quote Link to post Share on other sites
waikiore 110 Posted February 17 Share Posted February 17 We are asked to keep an eye out for the yacht ? No name or description though and the Wellington team unsure between Ponui and Pauanui . Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Dagwood 39 Posted February 17 Share Posted February 17 12 minutes ago, waikiore said: We are asked to keep an eye out for the yacht ? No name or description though and the Wellington team unsure between Ponui and Pauanui . Heard a rep from the RCCNZ being interviewed in the radio this morning. That's essentially all the info they're working from. Minimal info from the very broken radio call, no call sign heard. Conflicting info re location, Waiheke was stated, location given east of Coromandel and VHF call came through repeaters on Barrier and BoP. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Fish 803 Posted February 17 Share Posted February 17 There is two threads on this, but this one is leading so lets use this one. Other thread here Quote Link to post Share on other sites
weap10 5 Posted February 18 Share Posted February 18 Anyone know how the repeaters work? We just sailed from Nelson to Boi and I struggled to keep skeds with Taupo zlm on the vhf, we were off Cape Egmont and ended up talking to Wellington in the morning and Cape Reinga in the evening. They could hear me but I was struggling to read them and wondering why i wasn't getting cape egmont on 71. The coastguard nowcasting however was crystal clear most of the way even 60nm off. Did most skeds on the cell phone in the end. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Dagwood 39 Posted February 18 Share Posted February 18 Found: https://www.maritimenz.govt.nz/public/news/media-releases-2021/20210218b.asp The yacht missing off the east coast of the Coromandel Peninsula has been found and both people on board are believed safe. Maritime NZ’s Rescue Coordination Centre NZ (RCCNZ) began coordinating the search yesterday evening after a brief and partial Mayday call was received. Senior Search and Rescue Officer, Chris Henshaw, said that a short time ago a vessel advised that it was the one that had broadcast the Mayday call. RCCNZ is standing down the search aircraft and vessel. More details to come. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
CarpeDiem 37 Posted February 18 Share Posted February 18 12 minutes ago, weap10 said: Anyone know how the repeaters work? We just sailed from Nelson to Boi and I struggled to keep skeds with Taupo zlm on the vhf, we were off Cape Egmont and ended up talking to Wellington in the morning and Cape Reinga in the evening. They could hear me but I was struggling to read them and wondering why i wasn't getting cape egmont on 71. The coastguard nowcasting however was crystal clear most of the way even 60nm off. Did most skeds on the cell phone in the end. Channel 16 (and 71) is a SIMPLEX channel - so when you transmit on Channel 16 - everyone listening on Channel 16 hears you on the same frequency that you transmitted on (which is 156.8 MHz) In isolated areas around NZ, when you transmit on Channel 16, a repeater station hears you on 156.8 MHz and rebroadcasts your message in realtime on another private frequency that is not in the normal marine VHF range - it could be anything - digital over fibre, VHF, UHF, etc - it's not designed for the public to receive the repeated transmission - I used to have a VHF radio that had a Channel 115 (iirc) and this picked up all the Channel 16 transmissions for the entire Auckland area, we could hear both sides of a conversation no matter where we were. That repeater is then delivered to a Maritime listening station directly, again delivery could be on the frequency used or could be via some other intermediate repeater, or even bundled up and sent over a private IP network. They know which repeater it came from. That listening station can then reply to you by transmitting back via that private repeater channel, that channel will rebroadcast on Channel 16 - 156.8 MHz so you (and anyone else in range) can hear it. This is different to DUPLEX channels, eg Channel 04 in Auckland - you transmit on 156.2 MHz but receive on 160.8 MHz - you don't need to do anything special for this, the radio is automatically programmed to do this. A repeater hears you on 156.2MHz and retransmits (with more power) on 160.8MHz. Everyone now hears your message. Thus Channel 16 will work anywhere with line of sight - but you will not be able to talk to a boat 100 feet away using Channel 4 in the middle of the pacific because there is no repeater nearby. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Fish 803 Posted February 18 Share Posted February 18 31 minutes ago, Dagwood said: Found: https://www.maritimenz.govt.nz/public/news/media-releases-2021/20210218b.asp The yacht missing off the east coast of the Coromandel Peninsula has been found and both people on board are believed safe. Maritime NZ’s Rescue Coordination Centre NZ (RCCNZ) began coordinating the search yesterday evening after a brief and partial Mayday call was received. Senior Search and Rescue Officer, Chris Henshaw, said that a short time ago a vessel advised that it was the one that had broadcast the Mayday call. RCCNZ is standing down the search aircraft and vessel. More details to come. Well that is good that they are safe. Very sketchy on details, but I guess for me that is a symptom of a fully connected world, wanting to know every detail when it doesn't actually affect me. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
eruptn 43 Posted February 18 Share Posted February 18 https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/yacht-found-search-over-after-mayday-call-from-sinking-yacht-near-coromandel-peninsula/CRISKTYP33PEYPEKY42EC7WADA/# Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Island Time 835 Posted February 18 Share Posted February 18 Anyone know the boat? Tribe? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ex Elly 68 Posted February 18 Share Posted February 18 Missing yacht Tribe found in bay near Whangarei It was located on Thursday afternoon in Bream Bay about 4 nautical miles (7km) south of Whangarei. That is about 80 nautical miles (150km) north of where it made its Mayday call. The Tribe’s skipper will meet with Maritime NZ staff on Friday to discuss what happened and what lessons can be learned from the incident. https://www.stuff.co.nz/waikato-times/news/124283586/missing-yacht-tribe-found-in-bay-near-whangarei-following-mayday-call-and-search Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Dtwo 138 Posted February 18 Share Posted February 18 2 hours ago, Island Time said: Anyone know the boat? Tribe? Not in YNZ database. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
wheels 461 Posted February 18 Share Posted February 18 It is going to be an interesting discussion. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Fogg 256 Posted February 19 Share Posted February 19 Hope they told him to bring along his cheque book. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Zozza 135 Posted February 19 Share Posted February 19 I never make fun of anybody that got / gets into strife on the water - just seems like an invitation to karma of the wrong kind. 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Fish 803 Posted February 23 Share Posted February 23 Here is the wrap up story. Sounds like he genuinely had a bit on, and only had a handheld VHF. Broadcast the mayday, but couldn't hear a thing in return. I think it has been managed tactfully by the authorities. https://www.rnz.co.nz/news/national/437001/boatie-who-made-mayday-call-could-have-cancelled-it-maritime-nz 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
wheels 461 Posted February 23 Share Posted February 23 Hmmmm, I dunno, I have issue with several points. I don't think the story he tells has many "alternative facts", However, if we discuss this from a "Lessons to be learned point of view". First question, where was the guy coming from? The whether was such that no one should have been out there unless they were well equipped and some minor level of experience. It seems that from view of the story, this guy was not well equipped, nor had the level of experience. The story suggests he did not know much about VHF and especially CH16. That suggests to me he had little experience and should not have been out there in that kind of Sea. But then, to be able to sail in 8m Seas, look after another crew member, sort out an issue of water entering the vessel and sail on through the night and navigate his way around the Coromandel and all the way to Whangarei, suggests to me he does have some experience. So why did he get the LL position wrong? Or was it that the listener could not get a clear enough reading to get an accurate Position? Why did he not seek shelter in a much closer bay? He passed many on the way North. Just how noisy does it have to be to not be able to hear a VHF clipped to ones jacket? Plus a VHF should receive far better than send, especially as MNZ has excellent transmitter positions. He surely would have been able to contact someone once he reached Whangarei. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
harrytom 350 Posted February 23 Share Posted February 23 Handheld VHF never had much faith in them.yet to find one that can take a drenching as claimed by some.most don't even like light spray.short aerial so only a few feet above water.my understanding had crew but basically solo as crew inadequate. Could look at as good trainng for authorities?? Why not send SnR plane/helicopter up for locating purposes? Not a 5 minute trip Colville to Whangarei. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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