CarpeDiem 512 Posted December 5, 2019 Share Posted December 5, 2019 Would like to do some single handed sailing but not sure how to hoist the main... AP into the wind is a no brainer and I generally do that two handed. Winch and clutch is on the cabin top. Sail is to heavy to hand haul it from the cock pit through the clutch. Winching it from the cock pit... while I am ok with that for shaking out a reef when it needs to be done .. It seems mighty exhausting for something I want to be a pleasant experience. Electric winch is unbelievably expensive (I could buy a new main) Which leaves pulling it up from the base of the mast... Thought about hanging a drogue out the back to pull the slack line through the clutch whilst motoring at 5 knots.. Thought about adding a v jammer to the mast to hold the line in place between hauls, but hate the idea of drilling holes in the rig Have already tried tying a knot after hoisting it at the mast but that took three of us to fix. Tried a prussic that worked but was reslly fiddly. I own a couple of jumars which I feel might be a goer, but I am likely to chew my halyard Any other ideas? I feel I am missing something obvious Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Kick Ass 49 Posted December 5, 2019 Share Posted December 5, 2019 Do you have a 2:1 halyard? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
splat 56 Posted December 5, 2019 Share Posted December 5, 2019 Get drill to winch adapter bit and use drill? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
CarpeDiem 512 Posted December 5, 2019 Author Share Posted December 5, 2019 Do you have a 2:1 halyard? No. We have the halyard and the tylaska shackle but have been told the crane needs a modification. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
CarpeDiem 512 Posted December 5, 2019 Author Share Posted December 5, 2019 Get drill to winch adapter bit and use drill? I like this idea. Thanks. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Dr Dave 5 Posted December 5, 2019 Share Posted December 5, 2019 You could also convert the halyard winch to electric Its a big help when short handed on big rigs Cheers Dave Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Clipper 362 Posted December 5, 2019 Share Posted December 5, 2019 I often hoist my main at the mast, tie a slipknot when up and it stops against slot in the mast. Then go back to cockpit, pull tail through and winch knot out and last half m of halyard up. Thats on Gale Force, so pretty much the same size. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Young Entertainer 61 Posted December 5, 2019 Share Posted December 5, 2019 last one i did i just went out, anchored, hoisted main and jib with the tail round the winch and then back to the cockpit and pushed the up button on the anchor, seemed to work remarkably well, and I stayed in the same place the whole time Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Black Panther 1,716 Posted December 5, 2019 Share Posted December 5, 2019 I have an extra cleat on the mast pull it up. One wrap on the cleat. Pull the slack out and put it on the winch leaving just enough slack to take it off the cleat. Then back to winch and tension. A rope clutch would be a bit more efficient but not enough to stir me into action. I do this for the jib and foresail. Main halyard winch is at the mast. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Fish 0 Posted December 5, 2019 Share Posted December 5, 2019 I'd look to reduce friction everywhere. Clean the mast track. Lube the cars, can of silicon spray. Wash the halyard (can get grimmy and stiff) Service and or lube every turning block, mast crane etc. Best mileage should be in the mast track and cars. Not sure where you got the idea racing solo is supposed to be a pleasant experince? It's supposed to be extremely hard physically, and you should get scared witless running your biggest gear and seeing how long you can hang on for, before having a class 1 cluster and wrecking something expensive. Only then will you get the sense of achievement possible with racing solo... 4 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
John B 109 Posted December 5, 2019 Share Posted December 5, 2019 I like Mates system. What I did is add a cam cleat to the mast, not a big deal. You put it just off the fair lead of the halyard. Make a fairing block out of umpy or wood, or cast in situ with epoxy. How big is the main we're talking about? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Island Time 1,286 Posted December 6, 2019 Share Posted December 6, 2019 I now use one of these; Milwaukee M28 right angle drill with the "cranker" replacement chuck. Works great! Still it around $1k . Also still need all the gear (halyards, sheeves, turning blocks, jammers) in good order, same with the winches. I used to do the main halyard manually with a jammer at the mast, now from the cockpit with this, takes only about 30secs....if that. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
mcp 34 Posted December 6, 2019 Share Posted December 6, 2019 One of these → https://fostersshipchandlery.co.nz/collections/rope-jammers/products/cleatjammeduimblack on the mast and off centre, so as soon as you wind some tension on the halyard line it simply pops out and moves slightly to the side. Works excellent for me once I figure the correct position out with lots of double sided tape. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Jon 396 Posted December 6, 2019 Share Posted December 6, 2019 It’s only a 35 footer as stated above I’d say from experience that you’ve got a friction problem On my 38ftr we needed two if not 3 to hoist the main until I got the sheaves changed in the mast (they looked ok from the outside but had flogged out internally) then I could hoist it 80% by hand standing in the cockpit and then just winch the last bit Made a huge difference to how often I used the main cruising Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Freedom GBE 27 Posted December 6, 2019 Share Posted December 6, 2019 Lubricate with chain oiil on all moving parts, most often on the main slides, hanks and center boards. It doesnt evaporate like CRC and doesnt dry out like grease. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Steve Pope 253 Posted December 6, 2019 Share Posted December 6, 2019 Lubricate with chain oiil on all moving parts, most often on the main slides, hanks and center boards. It doesnt evaporate like CRC and doesnt dry out like grease. Do you mean chain wax, as in motorcycle chains, or just chain oil as in chainsaw chain oil??? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Island Time 1,286 Posted December 7, 2019 Share Posted December 7, 2019 Chain oil is sticky. Sand and crap sticks, eventually making it all worse. Use a dry lubricant, like crc dry glide, sailkote, or similar. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Steve Pope 253 Posted December 7, 2019 Share Posted December 7, 2019 Chain oil is generally very sticky, Spectro's Chain wax is something else, not sticky, I lube bowden cables with it and have used it on sail slides with success. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Clipper 362 Posted December 7, 2019 Share Posted December 7, 2019 dry glide is good. makes a big difference Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Zozza 333 Posted December 7, 2019 Share Posted December 7, 2019 Change to junk rig. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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