Black Panther 1,568 Posted August 24, 2020 Share Posted August 24, 2020 Since we moved aboard I have spent 3 years fantasizing about a hard dinghy for rowing and sailing. If it would take the 4hp outboard that would be a bonus but is not mission critical. Sailing and rowing is. The inflatable can travel in the davitts for short trips. So the new dinghy would be upside down between the masts. Room there for 10ft ( I have reverted to imperial as so many of the dinghies are described that way) . Another bonus point if the inflatable could stow deflated inside the upside down hard dinghy for ocean passages. More bonus points if the rig and oars fit inside. I also looked at nesting and having a longer one. Longer dinghies sail and row better. But i want to be able to manhandle it onto the deck singlehanded. Decided a max length of about 14ft was about right. Then I thought instead of splitting it in the middle just chop a bit off the bow and nest that. Or buy a sunburst and make it into a pram. See why it's taken 3 years with so little progress? 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Adrianp 116 Posted August 24, 2020 Share Posted August 24, 2020 We brought a second hand Delta dingy earlier this year and they are great little dinghies that tick a lot of those boxes. 3m long so should fit within your spot. Rows well (even has foot braces) and sails nicely. They are pretty lite too and seem robust as there are heaps of them around once you start looking. Our was $850 and in great condition. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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Kevin McCready 83 Posted August 24, 2020 Share Posted August 24, 2020 Avoid WalkerBay like the plague. They sail like a dog. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Kevin McCready 83 Posted August 24, 2020 Share Posted August 24, 2020 http://www.equipped.com/callahan_bio.htm Quote Link to post Share on other sites
armchairadmiral 411 Posted August 24, 2020 Share Posted August 24, 2020 Jim Young had one.2.7m if I recall. If you were energetic & looking for something to do....... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Black Panther 1,568 Posted August 24, 2020 Author Share Posted August 24, 2020 Theres adelta up our river and it is very nice. I had never heard of them till that appeared. Never seen one for sale but I am an intermittent looker. 2.7m seems short since i have space for more. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Black Panther 1,568 Posted August 24, 2020 Author Share Posted August 24, 2020 Things like this I like https://www.clcboats.com/shop/boats/other-designs/jimmy-skiff-rowing-sailing-kit.html But building from scratch is problematic as I don't have a house or garage. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
NZTiger 17 Posted August 24, 2020 Share Posted August 24, 2020 2 hours ago, Adrianp said: We brought a second hand Delta dingy earlier this year and they are great little dinghies that tick a lot of those boxes. 3m long so should fit within your spot. Rows well (even has foot braces) and sails nicely. They are pretty lite too and seem robust as there are heaps of them around once you start looking. Our was $850 and in great condition. I concur with Adrianp. I've owned one of these for about four years. I use it as a tender for my yacht and also for sailing off the beach up north over summer. I keep my yacht on a mooring and wanted something that had enough weight and steerage to work in about 20 knots of wind and Tamaki river chop. I also wanted one that I could launch by myself in those on-shore type conditions without any risk or difficulty. It has enough freeboard to handle adverse weather or to be loaded with sailing gear (not both). It's quite heavy, so if you wanted to lift it up onto the deck of your yacht, you'd need some method of doing this - particularly by itself. I usually leave mine attached to the mooring when we go sailing. It sails quite well - given that it doesn't have a headsail. Cheers, Justin Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Fish 0 Posted August 24, 2020 Share Posted August 24, 2020 I've got a 9 ish foot one BP, with a little bow sprit, has a main and little headsail. You can have it if you want, it is currently occupying space I have been filling with other toys. The spars are wooden, so don't stow easily like some of these two part alloy ones. Has a beach trailer as well, but I'm guessing you wont need one of those If you don't want that, what about the nutshell pram? there are a couple of examples at the club. I can tell you which locker they are in if you're interested. 9'6 is the long version. I have the book on how to build them (not the plans though). I'm sure BP is big enough you could build one in the saloon... I was dead keen on one of these but got a new deflatable at the price of the materials... The plans don't come nesting, but I can't see a problem with making one nest. Just chop it in half at the centre thwart. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Black Panther 1,568 Posted August 24, 2020 Author Share Posted August 24, 2020 I'd like to take a look at what you have fish. Thanks. Meanwhile off to google a nutshell Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Clipper 343 Posted August 24, 2020 Share Posted August 24, 2020 A slightly nesting sunburst is a cool idea. I still dream of a PT11. Too spendy though (and wouldnt help you if you cant build). Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Black Panther 1,568 Posted August 24, 2020 Author Share Posted August 24, 2020 Agreed. That PT11 would be the ultimate. Re the sunburst. If I got an old ply one i thought could double up the forward bulkhead and run a saw blade between the two. Then adjust the rear seating to accommodate the bow. Maybe not as silly as it sounds? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Fogg 427 Posted August 24, 2020 Share Posted August 24, 2020 https://sailwiththeflo.wordpress.com/our-dinghy/ Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Kevin McCready 83 Posted August 24, 2020 Share Posted August 24, 2020 Spindrift looks lovely, but only one rowing position. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Priscilla II 377 Posted August 24, 2020 Share Posted August 24, 2020 Townson 2.4. Occasionally they turn up on Trademe in glass. Trinka 10. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Clipper 343 Posted August 24, 2020 Share Posted August 24, 2020 1 hour ago, Black Panther said: Agreed. That PT11 would be the ultimate. Re the sunburst. If I got an old ply one i thought could double up the forward bulkhead and run a saw blade between the two. Then adjust the rear seating to accommodate the bow. Maybe not as silly as it sounds? Sounds worth a shot! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Black Panther 1,568 Posted August 24, 2020 Author Share Posted August 24, 2020 Has anyone tried rowing a sunburst? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
chippie 6 Posted August 24, 2020 Share Posted August 24, 2020 Plus 1 for the Delta, way under rated. 3m long and I could just haul it up on a halyard on my own. I think the Sunburst would be a lot heavier. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
DaveNoy 1 Posted August 24, 2020 Share Posted August 24, 2020 4 minutes ago, chippie said: Plus 1 for the Delta, way under rated. 3m long and I could just haul it up on a halyard on my own. I think the Sunburst would be a lot heavier. 77kg min class weight, so any existing hull about double what you could build a similar sized ply row boat. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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