ex Elly 217 Posted September 16, 2021 Share Posted September 16, 2021 The 'blunt' Mark Dunphy, and his attempt to keep the America's Cup in New Zealand Farmer now represents Greymouth Petroleum, and is also well entrenched in the battle to keep the America’s Cup in New Zealand. Their tie-up is something he sees a few ironies in now given that old court case, but Farmer also sees some parallels between then and now, at least when it comes to Dunphy’s involvement. ”He is prepared to stand up against large foreign interests if he thinks that New Zealand is being shafted.” https://www.stuff.co.nz/business/126368181/the-blunt-mark-dunphy-and-his-attempt-to-keep-the-americas-cup-in-new-zealand If Jim Farmer is now working with Dunphy, then it may not be so bad? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Frank 157 Posted September 16, 2021 Share Posted September 16, 2021 15 hours ago, Fish said: Jeddah? That sailing mecca. Otherwise better known for dropping bombs on starving kids in Yemin? That evil empire? Has all the looks of a bad starwars movie. Phew ! its not the one that kills Suspicious looking Afghan civilians. https://www.nytimes.com/2021/09/13/us/politics/pentagon-drone-strike-kabul.html Quote Link to post Share on other sites
armchairadmiral 411 Posted September 16, 2021 Share Posted September 16, 2021 17 hours ago, Fish said: Think you forgot the torturing bit. If they go to Jeddah, I will burn my ETNZ gear. Waste not ,want not. Please let me have it. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
waikiore 438 Posted September 18, 2021 Author Share Posted September 18, 2021 Well safe to say things arent going swimmingly for Mr Dalton with this delay because no one has agreed to buy the hosting rights, and a growing groundswell of Kiwis questioning the need to take it away, plus of course two major players -America and Italy backing Auckland despite the geographic distance. I wonder how the conversation with his new best bud Ratcliffe is going now -Cowes anyone? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ex Elly 217 Posted September 20, 2021 Share Posted September 20, 2021 Team NZ's Grant Dalton wants to know who is behind home defence plan Team New Zealand head Grant Dalton has demanded to know which overseas interests might be connected with a private sector bid to keep the next America’s Cup defence in Auckland. Dalton has written to businessman Mark Dunphy who is fronting the campaign, specifically asking about contact with former billionaire team owners Larry Ellison, Ernesto Bertarelli and Patrizio Bertelli. “Can you clarify your intentions, and the nature of any conversation, regarding the approaches made to solicit the support of the New York Yacht Club and who those approaches may have been through,” added Dalton. Dalton said clear answers about who the Kiwi Home Defence campaign was connected to, were needed before anything further happens. https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/americas-cup/126435893/americas-cup-team-nzs-grant-dalton-wants-to-know-who-is-behind-home-defence-plan Quote Link to post Share on other sites
waikiore 438 Posted September 20, 2021 Author Share Posted September 20, 2021 Ah NYYC and Prada put their cards on the table long before Dunphy popped up. Conversely Mr Dalton has been totally silent about the back deal he has with Team Fracking..... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Black Panther 1,672 Posted September 20, 2021 Share Posted September 20, 2021 Wish you guys wouldn't talk in code. Team fracking? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Priscilla II 409 Posted September 20, 2021 Share Posted September 20, 2021 https://www.jamesfarmerqc.co.nz/Legal-Commentary/america-s-cup-just-do-it-and-positivity 1 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Priscilla II 409 Posted September 20, 2021 Share Posted September 20, 2021 14 minutes ago, Black Panther said: Wish you guys wouldn't talk in code. Team fracking? https://www.sailingscuttlebutt.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/10/INEOS-is-about-Fracking-Open-Letter.pdf 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ex Elly 217 Posted September 21, 2021 Share Posted September 21, 2021 New poll favours Team NZ defending America's Cup offshore A new poll shows New Zealanders don’t want the America’s Cup defended at home at an increased cost to the tax payer. The poll, commissioned by Team New Zealand to gauge public sentiments as the hosting process intensifies, showed there was just 26 per cent of respondents in favour of the champion syndicate defending the America’s Cup in New Zealand “with significant increase in public/tax payer investment”. https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/americas-cup/126442680/new-poll-favours-team-nz-defending-americas-cup-offshore-without-public-money Is this just spin from ETNZ? Surely Kiwis want to cup to take place here? 1 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Fogg 427 Posted September 21, 2021 Share Posted September 21, 2021 1 hour ago, ex Elly said: Is this just spin from ETNZ? Surely Kiwis want to cup to take place here? Yes but not at any cost. People are realising the last few weeks extra economic damage will cost taxpayers enough without unnecessary additions like a boat race. More interesting to me is the fact that TNZ even did the poll. As if they care what NZ public sentiment really says. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
DoT 31 Posted September 21, 2021 Share Posted September 21, 2021 Was the question framed to secure a "No" answer seeing as TNZ really want an excuse to go offshore? 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Fogg 427 Posted September 21, 2021 Share Posted September 21, 2021 26 minutes ago, DoT said: Was the question framed to secure a "No" answer seeing as TNZ really want an excuse to go offshore? Yes I think so but this recent new effort to keep it onshore probably confused TNZ’s read of the NZ public mood - hence they probably felt the need to check ‘just in case’. But I don’t think the poll result would influence their decision in any way - it would only influence their PR spin on explaining their decision. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
waikiore 438 Posted September 21, 2021 Author Share Posted September 21, 2021 Yes ETNZ struggling with ever more desperate spin to justify bailing out of NZ 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
harrytom 671 Posted September 22, 2021 Share Posted September 22, 2021 Let him take it overseas, who knows what this covid thing will be like in 4yrs .And dont come running back home. Would it worry me if the cup wasnt held here,no not at all. Will that 100 million to pay for next round of lockdowns. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
1paulg 20 Posted September 22, 2021 Share Posted September 22, 2021 24 minutes ago, harrytom said: Let him take it overseas, who knows what this covid thing will be like in 4yrs .And dont come running back home. Would it worry me if the cup wasnt held here,no not at all. Will that 100 million to pay for next round of lockdowns. Lol 100 mill at the moment is around a days cost currently and a drop in the ocean the way money is being spent at the moment 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
muzled 140 Posted September 22, 2021 Share Posted September 22, 2021 37 minutes ago, 1paulg said: Lol 100 mill at the moment is around a days cost currently and a drop in the ocean the way money is being spent at the moment LOL 100 mil at the moment is around a days income for the rich fullas that own these teams. Obviously I just made that up but there's no shortage of money floating around if some 1%'er wants to hang the cup in his lounge. Taxpayers don't need to be paying to host what at the end of the day, is a minority sporting event. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
waikiore 438 Posted September 22, 2021 Author Share Posted September 22, 2021 Squeezed into a corner the caged rat bites out, so Grant where is your funding to come from? Pay for everybody to read Jim Farmers summary as he is someone who has been deeply involved, puts his money into Kiwi yachting and is not on the take from anyone. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
waikiore 438 Posted September 22, 2021 Author Share Posted September 22, 2021 Sad that the RNZYS has no control of this runaway trainwreck. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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