ex Elly 246 Posted January 11, 2023 Share Posted January 11, 2023 New race from the organizers of the Coastal Classic. 14 miles from North Head to Torbay and back. All yachts start at the same time. $120 entry fee. PHRF required. Party, prizegiving and berthage at Wynyard quarter. https://www.harbourclassic.co.nz/ Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Deep Purple 530 Posted January 11, 2023 Share Posted January 11, 2023 Can YNZ process 2689 PHRF applications? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Cameron 93 Posted January 11, 2023 Share Posted January 11, 2023 1 hour ago, Deep Purple said: Can YNZ process 2689 PHRF applications? They would have 228565 reasons to process them!!! $$$ Will be interesting how it goes... quite expensive for a shortish race and I'd be concerned about collisions if they get anywhere near the numbers they hope for. But good luck to them... it would be quite a spectacle! 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Ex Machina 390 Posted January 11, 2023 Share Posted January 11, 2023 Being country bumpkins we are going for the cheap accomodation at Wynyard quarter 😂🤣. But honestly , good on them for trying to breathe some extra life into yachting . Needing a PHRF cert will restrict the numbers and is a bit of a dumb move , or cunning plan to get the cert numbers up and more participation in PHRF only events ? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Psyche 789 Posted January 11, 2023 Share Posted January 11, 2023 First shots in a turf war Quote Link to post Share on other sites
waikiore 473 Posted January 11, 2023 Share Posted January 11, 2023 No mention of insurance requirement ...... just saying 😏 As the extremely strong Reactor slid into the 60' tri Quote Link to post Share on other sites
waikiore 473 Posted January 11, 2023 Share Posted January 11, 2023 Speaking of Turf thems Milford waves they will be sailing on go the piedies! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ex Elly 246 Posted January 11, 2023 Author Share Posted January 11, 2023 Funny thing is, this race isn't in the harbour, so should be called the Just-Outside-The-Harbour Classic! 😄 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
waikiore 473 Posted January 12, 2023 Share Posted January 12, 2023 Though prior to the 2000 Americas Cup (remember that when all were proud supporters) they extended the official harbour limits out to Noisies-Tiri Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Ex Machina 390 Posted January 12, 2023 Share Posted January 12, 2023 2 hours ago, waikiore said: No mention of insurance requirement ...... just saying 😏 As the extremely strong Reactor slid into the 60' tri I’ve seen a Davidson 35 slide into a 60 foot tri , heaps of room too . Davidson got a bloody nose and tri got a big scratch . Quote Link to post Share on other sites
waikiore 473 Posted January 12, 2023 Share Posted January 12, 2023 Ive seen a 58' launch hit a moored reactor , Reactor broken tiller and strained rudder. New launch sunk! (in the Tamaki) 1 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
aardvarkash10 1,101 Posted January 12, 2023 Share Posted January 12, 2023 1 hour ago, waikiore said: Ive seen a 58' launch hit a moored reactor , Reactor broken tiller and strained rudder. New launch sunk! (in the Tamaki) An excellent outcome all round then 2 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
CarpeDiem 521 Posted January 12, 2023 Share Posted January 12, 2023 Smack bang in the middle of the Auckland to Tauranga. Which is a great race where many boats with PHRF could also be. Such impeccable planning. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Ex Machina 390 Posted January 12, 2023 Share Posted January 12, 2023 28 minutes ago, CarpeDiem said: Smack bang in the middle of the Auckland to Tauranga. Which is a great race where many boats with PHRF could also be. Such impeccable planning. Yeah -na , the Auckland Tauranga boats are hardcore and wouldn’t feel like they are missing something would they ? ….north head to Torbay and back ? And it’s more than PHRF it’s cat3+ too Quote Link to post Share on other sites
CarpeDiem 521 Posted January 12, 2023 Share Posted January 12, 2023 32 minutes ago, Ex Machina said: Yeah -na , the Auckland Tauranga boats are hardcore and wouldn’t feel like they are missing something would they ? ….north head to Torbay and back ? And it’s more than PHRF it’s cat3+ too A2t is Cat 3. Which is the same as coastal classic but with a life raft, and most coastal boats carry a raft anyway. So if you're a coastal classic boat you have to choose one over the other. We'd do both if it was an option. It's always less about the race and always more about the destination. What makes coastal, a2t, kauwau night race, ssanz anzac, (and now this), so attractive, is the after event. 37 boats entered a2t in 2021. That's a lot of boats with phrf having to choose. Hopefully in future years it won't conflict. It is a great idea. But given a2t has been on the public YNZ calendar for 7+ months it's disappointing to see. Anyways.... 200 boats on a 200m start line is going to be pretty damn interesting... 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Ex Machina 390 Posted January 12, 2023 Share Posted January 12, 2023 9 minutes ago, CarpeDiem said: A2t is Cat 3. Which is the same as coastal classic but with a life raft, and most coastal boats carry a raft anyway. So if you're a coastal classic boat you have to choose one over the other. We'd do both if it was an option. It's always less about the race and always more about the destination. What makes coastal, a2t, kauwau night race, ssanz anzac, (and now this), so attractive, is the after event. 37 boats entered a2t in 2021. That's a lot of boats with phrf having to choose. Hopefully in future years it won't conflict. It is a great idea. Any ways.... 200 boats on a 200m start line is going to be pretty damn interesting... All good points ! My argument is those core of boats that do the long races and short handed series are very well catered for in terms of events year round . They very rarely enter the soft core races like R66 , coastal or bayweek etc so I doubt they will lose sleep over missing the harbour classic . There’s literally hundreds of race boats in Auckland that just club race and don’t do any major races or events . The Harbour classic just might get a lot of them out of the marinas on that day . I still think PHRF is a bloody facepalm and a YNZ rort for such a short race , who the hell wants to measure all their sails for that …and pay $70 for the pleasure . Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Black Panther 1,757 Posted January 12, 2023 Share Posted January 12, 2023 They should do a mark foy like we used to for the crew rum race. 1 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Psyche 789 Posted January 12, 2023 Share Posted January 12, 2023 They should make more like a SSANZ short course, round a few islands and suchlike. Torbay doesnt have much of a ring to it Quote Link to post Share on other sites
harrytom 696 Posted January 12, 2023 Share Posted January 12, 2023 Have any of you actually bothered to read "notice f race"?? It a cat 5 race . Safety Inspections Every entry has the responsibility to ensure it is fully compliant with safety category 5 requirements. Any yacht found to be in contravention of YNZ Safety Regulations Part II Category 5 shall be subject to protest from the Race Committee or Yachting New Zealand. MEASUREMENTS / HANDICAPS Each yacht shall provide a current valid rating certificate with her entry as follows: 6.1 Monohull racing handicaps will be based on the Passage PHRF TCF handicap racing system and is designated automatically from the Yachting New Zealand database. All Monohull entries shall hold a current valid PHRF handicap certificate issued by Yachting New Zealand. Yachts with water ballast shall have a PHRF handicap on the basis of the water ballast. 6.2 The NZ Multihull Yacht Club will handicap all racing multihull entrants. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Clipper 370 Posted January 12, 2023 Share Posted January 12, 2023 The PHRF requirement is a bit of a strange one if trying to build a large spectacle race? And Its not clear yet what the $100 to $150 entry covers, but if its just the race, might be a bit steep for some. i dont want to sound negative, the concept looks great fun. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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