The big T 27 Posted June 10 Share Posted June 10 $150 for straying into a bus lane on Queen Street (and I still don't know where), really p###d me off. $200 for endangering a ship (and potentially the whole local environment), seems rather lopsided. We must appreciate Councils can only operate within the tools they are given but bus lane fines are automatic, arbitrary and revenue generating. Infrequent Nav and Safety infringements cost Councils (us) with no return. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
harrytom 513 Posted June 11 Share Posted June 11 4 hours ago, Psyche said: It would be better to encourage people attend a boating education course compulsary would be better. I did a boat masters back in 1986,can remember most things but lights would get me.Dredge/constrained by draught. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Jon 279 Posted June 11 Share Posted June 11 6 hours ago, Psyche said: It would be better to encourage people attend a boating education course Yes but carrots only work if there are sticks And $200 is not a stick to any boat owner now Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Psyche 334 Posted June 11 Share Posted June 11 The last thing we need is water police handing out fines, being stopped and told off in front of friends and family is often embarrassment enough, there are plenty of laws you can hit someone with if we want to go there. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Suspect Device 4 Posted June 16 Share Posted June 16 Had to make an account just to post this. Drifting back into gulf harbour in the piedy a few months back. light easterly breeze, only fumes left in the gas tank so had to sail as far as marina security would allow, out going tide from the weiti river pushing us onto the cliff. the pictures don't really show it but we were danger close to the reef (close enough I honestly thought, and hoped, that this pr*ck was going to hit the rocks). Saw him on the next pier over when we got in, yelled out and said "bloke you pull that stunt again you're gonna get a bottle through your fkn window", his response? "mate i don't know what you're on about, what did i do?". I mean it's not like we are inconspicuous, the boats bright pink ffs. I'm not advocating for more laws or licensing, I'm dead against both of those things. my only regret is not making use of the empty bottles I had on hand. 3 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Young Entertainer 51 Posted June 16 Share Posted June 16 I taught my kids from early on, if you can hit it with a bottle then it is too close. so i create the bottles and they prepare them for use, i have found that green bottles have the best range so i tend to stick with them 1 3 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
harrytom 513 Posted June 16 Share Posted June 16 Try little passage at Musick Pt,Tamiki river, no one gives a stuff. Would be nice to see the police vessels cruising around for a change.wait not going to happen dont see them on the beat onshore. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Black Panther 1,215 Posted June 16 Share Posted June 16 I think the interesting thing about SDs post is the guy had no idea. Not being malicious, just totally ignorant. 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Psyche 334 Posted June 16 Share Posted June 16 19 hours ago, Suspect Device said: Had to make an account just to post this. Drifting back into gulf harbour in the piedy a few months back. light easterly breeze, only fumes left in the gas tank so had to sail as far as marina security would allow, out going tide from the weiti river pushing us onto the cliff. the pictures don't really show it but we were danger close to the reef (close enough I honestly thought, and hoped, that this pr*ck was going to hit the rocks). Saw him on the next pier over when we got in, yelled out and said "bloke you pull that stunt again you're gonna get a bottle through your fkn window", his response? "mate i don't know what you're on about, what did i do?". I mean it's not like we are inconspicuous, the boats bright pink ffs. I'm not advocating for more laws or licensing, I'm dead against both of those things. my only regret is not making use of the empty bottles I had on hand. That's just plain bad manners Quote Link to post Share on other sites
marinheiro 334 Posted June 18 Share Posted June 18 On 9/06/2022 at 7:28 AM, wheels said: As soon as you move CG from Safety to Policing, everything changes. Not saying that it would certainly follow the same here, but in both Oz and the US, the Coastguard have become a very harsh rules enforcement authority and not an organisation that is there for rescue, aid and education. However, I do think that the NZ CG could be given a tooth or two at least and be able to enforce some laws. Although, the difficult part of that is the authorisation of CG people to be able to stop, board and enforce. It's not all that easy. People with such authority require special training. Not something you are going to get Volunteers doing. The US Coastguard is a federal law enforcement agency, whilst the Australian Volunteer Coastguard is the same model as NZ, local volunteer groups working under a common umbrella with no enforcement powers. In Australia maritime enforcement is handled by the respective states' Department of Transport and Police water units. I looked up current pleasure boat registration fees for WA, they are effectively just another tax Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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