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I am not commenting on whether Peter is right our wrong. I just simply want to clarify why the no boating rule exits.
Firstly, it depends on the Country as to whether you can sail in their Waters or not during the C19 crises. For those Countries that are banning Boating, it is simply for one reason. If anything should go wrong for the Sailor and they need rescuing, that Sailor is causing the Rescue People to have to come together and risk a possible spread of the Virus between them. Simple as that.
Although Peter has sailed all over the World, is very experienced and highly unlikely to ever need assistance, it is difficult to make a rule for one and not another.

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I've reported this post. Adopting the language of the extreme right to describe people who support the rule of law sets a dangerous precedent for this forum. 

I'm getting offended by the amount of offense being taken around here. No one is calling anyone a w^&#$@r, a c**t or a fuckwit, which would be highly offensive. The OP is ju

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Agreed, and to sail in another countries waters without their permission is to invite arrest and imprisonment. Possibly confiscation of your vessel. His risk, he must accept the consequences. Unfortunately his actions can have consequences for others following his path at a future date, even post covid.

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Not as clear cut as that.

From Wiki....

The contested sovereignty claims over the waters may complicate future shipping through the region: the Canadian government maintains that the Northwestern Passages are part of Canadian Internal Waters,[10] but the United States and various European countries claim that they are an international strait and transit passage, allowing free and unencumbered passage

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13 hours ago, Black Panther said:

Correct.  Furthermore it is extremely rude to visit another country and blatantly flout their rules for purely selfish reasons.

 

Anyone remember the reaction a few years back when a certain nordic person decided he could sail to Antarctica and bugger the rules?

totally agree

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He's not stopping he's just sailing past which sometimes can mean you sail thru someone's zone, EXACTLY like navies, airlines, cruise ships, freighters, fishing boats, fishing fleets and shitloads of cruising yachts do all over the world 24/7/366.

This thread is simply combining mountains and molehills.

 

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This is a comment on a Canadian news site...

"The issue of whether or not the Northwest Passage is an international's waterway or Canadian internal waters is still being argued in the international courts.This man has been at sea in quarantine for 30 days and doesn't appear to be ill and there is no indication that he has stopped at any northern community or has any intention of doing so. This man is a sailor "exercising his right of innocent passage" and appears to have tried to communicate with Canadian officials since the middle of May. He left Nome, Alaska on 27 July and has completed around 1900 nautical miles in 30 days. He has less than half that distance to reach Lancaster Sound and enter international waters again. Let's stop the verbal abuse and start wishing him luck in the completion of his goal."

Its a shame a few more kiwi sailors don't share this view. This whole thing is a non-issue and Peter Smith is 100% correct in that this is just beauracratic bullshit.

Should everyone just sit at home in their fluffy slippers untill some beauracratic cock womble tells us when we can start thinking sensibly for ourselves again?

 

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Should everyone just sit at home in their fluffy slippers untill some beauracratic cock womble tells us when we can start thinking sensibly for ourselves again?

Apparently...

My point about sailing, is its being unfairly targeted by bureaucrats in Wellington for no good reason. But we cant have rich pricks sailing yachts while others have to kayak, surf , windsurf, row, boogie board and swim now can we?

 

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3 hours ago, Sabre said:

This is a comment on a Canadian news site...

"The issue of whether or not the Northwest Passage is an international's waterway or Canadian internal waters is still being argued in the international courts.This man has been at sea in quarantine for 30 days and doesn't appear to be ill and there is no indication that he has stopped at any northern community or has any intention of doing so. This man is a sailor "exercising his right of innocent passage" and appears to have tried to communicate with Canadian officials since the middle of May. He left Nome, Alaska on 27 July and has completed around 1900 nautical miles in 30 days. He has less than half that distance to reach Lancaster Sound and enter international waters again. Let's stop the verbal abuse and start wishing him luck in the completion of his goal."

Its a shame a few more kiwi sailors don't share this view. This whole thing is a non-issue and Peter Smith is 100% correct in that this is just beauracratic bullshit.

Should everyone just sit at home in their fluffy slippers untill some beauracratic cock womble tells us when we can start thinking sensibly for ourselves again?

 

the following is part of an email I received from Pete early this week

The authorities seem to have backed off for now. I have had a flurry of indignant demands from 5 departments all under the Transport authority umbrella. When I respond as well as refer them to head office they all shut up, scared of treading on big Brothers toes. When I talked to a Toronto Natives Safety Department director they were very understanding and wished me Bon Voyage, so it is not all negative.

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33 minutes ago, marinheiro said:

the following is part of an email I received from Pete early this week

The authorities seem to have backed off for now. I have had a flurry of indignant demands from 5 departments all under the Transport authority umbrella. When I respond as well as refer them to head office they all shut up, scared of treading on big Brothers toes. When I talked to a Toronto Natives Safety Department director they were very understanding and wished me Bon Voyage, so it is not all negative.

I suspect the authorities know they could well embarass themselves if they went and detained him given their tenuous at best legal standing and could also open a big ugly can of worms if other countries got involved.

The most worrying part of this whole situation for me is that some very experienced cruisers think that bowing down to unreasonable beauracracy is the best way to preserve sailors rights and access to the oceans.

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