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I don't see how they would be 'stuck' in Tahiti? With a Carte de Seyjour, they could easily sail to Nuka Hiva or sail to the eastern Tuamotu for hurricane season, or even Hawaii to the north. The

Well yes there sort of is rational and sort of a sh*t load of it. As noted they did ask to come and were told No so what did they do, they thought f*ck you new Zealand, f*ck your laws, f*ck the r

They want to come to NZ not because their son died, not because of weather problems, but because their broker says the yacht will sell more easily here. They left and buried their son in the uk,

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refugees jumping the cue rings a bell

 

but seriously can't see the problem, maybe run out of competent Public Servants to organise and monitor even though it seems to be pretty fully organised by the private sector already.

Pretty hard to reopen a country with this sort of decision making going on. Maybe there will be a big turn around once all those votes are in.

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I’m trying to keep this tightly on-topic and not about wider immigration policy and political refugees etc... Purely a comparison with how other countries - like Malaysia, Indonesia and Panama for example - have dealt with the issue of cruisers over the last few months.

 

Should NZ be thinking more creatively &  pragmatically - and doing more specifically about cruisers in our region?

 

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I would speculate with the election only 6 weeks away the government just does not want to make a decision about something like this. Also I think resources here are stretched as it is so they do not want to add to it.

I was told by a police contact that even though time at sea is isolation from the "common sense' perspective, it is not the case legally. You are only considered isolated in NZ once in NZ territorial waters. I remember watching the Zatara videos, they spent ~22 days in quarantine at Fiji before they were cleared in.

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9 hours ago, marinheiro said:

I would speculate with the election only 6 weeks away the government just does not want to make a decision about something like this. Also I think resources here are stretched as it is so they do not want to add to it.

I was told by a police contact that even though time at sea is isolation from the "common sense' perspective, it is not the case legally. You are only considered isolated in NZ once in NZ territorial waters. I remember watching the Zatara videos, they spent ~22 days in quarantine at Fiji before they were cleared in.

Zatara stopped at Minerva, therefore restarting their clock. They released a comprehensive video of Fiji's "Blue Lanes" initiative. Something that could easily be modified and adopted to apply here. Based on where our current MIQ facilities are located, near large hospitals, hence why Queenstown wasn't utilised, I wouldn't expect this government to allow en mass Q at Opua.

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It is pure and simple poor communication and management of the situation by the Gvt. They are, very sadly, demonstrating this same level of bad communication and management in many situations.
So Super Yachts have been given the clearance to head to NZ. The smaller Yachts that are asking to be let in have had no reply via direct communication from the Gvt at all. They found out there was a "No" to them coming here only by reading the Gvt Website. That is very poor.

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2 hours ago, waikiore said:

I have sympathy for English cruisers that were in the Pacific at the start of all this, however not much for the yachts that left here for Fiji during the first lockdown  assuming they would get back in. 

the Zatara crew are a good example of the latter. It does not look like Australia or NZ is likely to let them in so their only bail out option if they want to leave the cyclone region is to head north to Palau or Guam, ie US territories(sort of in the case of Palau)

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