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  1. I would seriously consider a Raven 26. Well balanced and ideal first keeler to teach the family how to sail and has as much interior volume as many older 30 footers. We had one for 13 years. Several trips up north with 2 kids on board. You adapt to the space you have. We would all love bigger boats but reality sets in and financial restraints rear thier ugly head.
  2. Couple of points with regards to the posts above. - the pros and cons of a junk rig can (and have) be debated on here till the cows come home. Regardless of the usability/performance etc, if i were in your situation and wanting to hone my fairly beginner level skills, I'd buy something with a more 'standard' rig which teaches you to trim and sail in a way that's more transferable to other boats. -someone above suggested don't go under 28 feet, then suggested an h28, which has less room inside than a raven 26. Up to you but I wouldn't draw a hard and fast line. -the various co
  3. While you may not be looking for a project, any yacht in the size and price range you are looking will be a project. You can expect that at least some if not the majority of major components are in their last few seasons of life, that paint finishes etc will need addressing within the season or ceratainly by next, that there will be some non-structural and maybe a hidden structural issue that will need work. A survery will help, but a good survey will also cost 8% of your budget. KM is on the money in the running costs thinking. Insurance, mooring, fuel, the inevidible breakages.
  4. Good point about berthing costs KM. That's one of the nice attributes of the Raven 26 - keep the berthing costs at the lower level, while still having a sh#tload of room down below. In fact a Raven down below has as much if not more than some older 30 footers.
  5. Raven 26 as advised by Raz is a perfect started yacht for what your family are seeking. You'll pay between $5-15K depending on condition or how good the engine is, so $10K should get you a reasonably good one these days. If you find an extra $10K under the mattress, my friend Brian has his junk rigged Raven 26 for sale. Boat is moored in Auckland, despite him living in Canterbury. https://www.trademe.co.nz/a/motors/boats-marine/yachts/search?bof=6s8doi7b&search_string=raven 26 Junk rigs are super simple to sail, all sail raising and reefing can be done in seconds and from
  6. I'm not familiar with the San Juan, but from the other 3 designs you mention it sounds like you're on the right track for the kind of use you describe. H28 is an older concept than the other 2, doesn't have quite the volume and is slower. That said, for what it sounds like you're after, any of the 3 including the H28 are well suited. Could also look at a raven 26, which are quite roomy for 26 feet and plenty capable. Probably best to look (as long as its something popular ish like the ones you mention) for the boat that's had the most love/use/money spent lately as you can find rather tha
  7. Contributor here, Grant McN won the 2020 Wellington 24 Hour Race on Handicap (obviously) on his Raven 26 Footprints. We had the fleet well covered, as I came dead last on my Raven 26 in the same race. There are a dozen Ravens still around Wellington / Top of the South, most just cruising about but a couple of them still being raced quite hard and successfully, Setimo out of Waikawa and Tracer from Port Nick. Until recently , there were 4 of them on my Pier at Seaview
  8. https://www.trademe.co.nz/Browse/Listing.aspx?id=2511018630 Will be a hard sell at $20k I think
  9. Anyone know the right size of stuffing? It's the bronze factory gland with a 1 inch shaft. Boat a long way away and want to get sorted before haulout in a couple of weeks...
  10. Hi all, Looking to repaint my Raven 26's bum shortly. The International Awlcraft I used previously was heavily fouled after a year with barnacles and oysters featuring heavily. Any thoughts on good products? My boat isn't used as much as it should be so can be on the mooring for months at a time....
  11. Used to be a photo in the Panmure yacht and boating club of a large number of Raven 26s rafted up like that up at Kawau. Having a beer with a past Commodore tonight so will ask how many boats. You could pick John Bennets boat by the wheel steer wheel at the top of the mast. Someone took it off and hoisted it up there and poor old John couldn't find it. Left the raftup steering with a crescent spanner.
  12. chariot

    Bottom Job

    I have done what Wheels said on one of my previous boats. Ground out the blisters, washed thoroughly with fresh water and left to dry for a few weeks. Sealed with West System then filled with West system and micro ballons mixed together then just a bit of filler to get a fair finish. Epoxy undercoat applied to spots as spot primer then antifoul. That was a Raven 26 and they were fairly pox prone. Had that boat for13 years and never had another problem. Did that on second year of ownership.
  13. harrytom

    Sniffy

    Just been informed that Bob Ireland (sniffy) has passed away Unsure of details. Some here sailed with/against him . Raven 26 "Waitemata Sparkling "and raven 31 "Haze" To be held at PYBC at 1300 Thursday 12/9/2019 I believe
  14. Ditto on the Raven 26 and Reactor. Especially for open water. Reactors seem to be holding up well with fibreglass construction method limiting the opportunity for osmosis. Happy hunting
  15. Ditto on the Raven 26 and Reactor. Especially for open water. Reactors seem to be holding up well with fibreglass construction method limiting the opportunity for osmosis. Happy hunting
  16. Raven 26. Easy to sail and well balanced.
  17. There's a photo of a raftup of Raven 26's in the PYBC clubrooms. Photo was taken in Bon Accord harbour I think on a anniversary weekend. Can't remember how many, but there were a lot. Somebody stole the wheel off the only wheel steer R26 and hoisted it up the owners mast, the owner shall remain nameless. Not knowing it was up his mast he left with a cresent spanner to steer with.
  18. Sabre you could ask on the Raven owners website. From the looks of the photos the inner forestay isn't needed unless deep reefed and/or for a storm jib. http://www.ravenyachts.com/ravensdownsouth.htm This might help. Rigging. Class rules for rigging on Raven 26 All rigging to be stainless or galvanised wire Side stays: Outer side stay to be attached within 460mm from the top of the mast to outer Ubolt held by chainplate mounted on the front extreme outer side of the main cabin bulkhead. One only inner stay attached to the cross tree height and to inner Ubolt held by chain plat
  19. Went to an evening at Panmure YBC about 35 years ago give or take a few years and the speaker had just returned from the US. He had sailed his Raven 26 from Wellington up to the west coast of the US. At one stage they got caught in sea fog in a shipping lane so no sleep, overtired and ended up on an open coastal beach. Thought they had done their chips but when they jumped over the side they were in waist deep water. Got ashore and found the nearest farmer who got a machine down to them at low tide dug a hole beneath the keel, strops underneath and put it on the back of a truck. Took the boat
  20. Yeah there are heaps. Once upon a time it was considered quite normal by kiwis to go offshore in a 30 footer. I know of a raven 26 that's been from here to Canada. Cav 32's have been all over the show. H28s have circumnavigated as well. A few of the 30ish foot townsons went to the islands etc, I know of a townson 32 that's been to Darwin and back, but they had big windows and Des always said they weren't designed for it I believe. If you can find an entry list from a fiji race from years back they were full of 30ish footers. Big fleets too.
  21. Several Raven 26 have been offshore along with the Reactor that did the last solo trans Tasman. There are several under 31ft kiwi designs that have been offshore Davidson 28, Tasman Whiting 29 Chico 30 Smith 30 Cav 32, possible 30 Lotus 9.2, 9.5 Davidson 31 H 28 Y88 have crossed the Tasman Just to name a few off the top of my head. Plenty off others if you really start to think about it.
  22. Head from mana, north or south of the island depending on conditions, head for Koamaru, once around Koamaru keep the light on the brothers in transit with the Cape until you are just off white rocks, then head for the light on long Island. This course can be safely used at night, without instruments, and keeps you clear of all obstructions including cook rock. Just be careful not to round the Cape too close, there are some nasty rocks close in! Easy in daytime - 500m is good. The brothers windspeed will reflect what's really in the Strait. 35knots is not recommended the first time! You c
  23. h28 start price $15k raven 26 $8k reactors/trackers $7k cav 30/32 $20k cav 26 low as $5k,all good production yachts admittedly some need tlc $2k and youve got a comfortable cruiser some need new engines .Reality inexpensive vessels that a young couple can/could afford. But where the young guys/girls who have sailed their youth at Kohi/glendowie etc where do they go too?certainly not joining yacht clubs and moving up on to bigger yachts as most clubs have dropped in membership. perhaps 16/17 yr olds discovered boys/girls saturday night parties? even in my younger day thought nothing of it buyin
  24. harrytom

    Davidson 31

    d28 d31 raven 26 etc end of an era really,all produced when we had a bouyant market,cavalier yachts compass yachts etc,now days it seems if you want a glass boat fairly newish ,appears to be imported,sad for the marine industry unless you build a mold lay up a hull and hope someone will buy your molds As above,plenty of yachts around that fit my criteria but repower needed,my cav26 has a 40 yr yanmar 16hp ,does not use oil but its getting tired and to replace with a new motor $12/$16k fitting myself,not worth it,could fit a second hand 1gm but more than likely buying some elses trouble..
  25. GregW

    Davidson 31

    Those mid-80s build D31s on TM look nice. When I was a kid we had a Tasman 20 keeler, Raven 26 and then a Lotus 9.2. Each of these seemed like a quantum leap over the previous. The Lotus was a fantastic cruising/club racer type, pretty damn solid and no IOR design cues like many of the abovementioned. There are a bunch of others in the same ilk; D28, Marauder, Lidgard 29, Farr 9.2, Carpenter 29, Raven 31 and so on. Its amazing how 'affordable' some of these have become now. There are also some bloody good timber boats on the market. This one intrigued me. http://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/bo
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