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I was merely riffing off your comment that, "If a golf course, rugby field, cricket pitch, skate park, basketball court was under utilised and better served the community as something else then yes that should at the very least be explored." You are either moving the goalposts or creating a strawman argument by saying now, no, you mean a skate shop. But hey, I'm impressed you've stuck around so long after announcing you won't be back, so I will amend my metaphor to work within your changed parameters: If a skate school pushed for the closure of the skate shop next door so they had more sp

There is no need for yacht clubs if there are no yachts left. if you cant haul yachts, there will be none. Okahu sailor, to me your plan seems aimed at killing boating in auckland. I hope RAYC is the first club to die.

Can we please book in 20kts Southwester for Friday 20th October?

So i rode through the landing in the weekend. quite interesting as there were quite a lot of dinghies etc. All lined up along the ramp, rigging, getting ready, some foil sailors rigging up, a couple of out rigger guys. Guess what? None of them were using the hard stand area, not one. It is interesting that the park proponent holds out a range of potential and occasional events, that may or may not ever be held there, versus the "mere 300" boats" a year that used the area continuously. There is already a massive park nearby if it recall........ So the hard stand needs to shut just in

Well, I've been asked to comment and if you know me, you know I love to comment... Yes, please fill the survey out, folks! select that "strongly support" option when it asks about the hardstand, tell them it's insane to propose a $10mil park when they have no money to do so! The boatyard is so, so critical to local boats, particularly (and, I admit, very selfishly) multihulls. It's an absolute farce that a certain chair of a certain Akarana Marine Sports Charitable Trust seems to have the Orakei Local Board wrapped around their finger, and it's utterly tragic but most RAYC members an

Okahu Bay Management Plan Hearing – 28 September, 2023 Janet Watkins attended the Okahu Bay Management Plan Hearing and this is her submission: The Landing at Okahu Bay is a Regional asset that provides Coastal access to the Marine Environment for all Aucklanders and visitors. https://www.ayba.org.nz/blog/post/111169/okahu-bay-management-plan-hearing--28-september-2023/?fbclid=IwAR3_S_gYTujLy2KwpMyqGtx-EejjsrWr8XZdq7wYOcj5n6VmrjK6NRLedKk

I'm pretty left leaning in general (sorry) but the idea that the tiny pin prick of emissions from heritage machinery should change their operation because of climate change considerations seems ridiculous to me. Although I've shovelled many tons of coal into 100+ year-old boilers over the years so I'm biased. Making any heritage steam operation work financially is very very difficult. Most volunteer rail operations are struggling to keep their steam locomotives running, except for a handful of very well run ones like Steam Incorporated out of Wellington. Add the complexity of hull mainten

Your used by everyone is just a strawman argument. It is quite clear that there is already a large areas that can be used by everybody. It is equally clear that there was an area that was highly used (note you did not respond to my position that it was used continuously while your uses are just occasional fantasies) that you want to be available to the amorphous "everyone". Saying you have the greater good at heart is pretty lame. I have the greater good of the whole marine ecosystem at heart via clean boats - there your go, trumped your moral superiority.

Calling the content of this thread an "echo chamber" is a bit silly when every Auckland sailor I know (except those on the RAYC committee), every Auckland club (except, again, RAYC), and YNZ, are all saying this closure is a poor decision and they do not support it... Add in how you keep claiming the link between Howard Spencer's openly declared interests in the Trust and Tamaki Marine Park are a conspiracy theory, and aye yi yi, it makes me feel like I'm back in America with Trumpian politics: call those with the majority opinion conspiracy theorists in an echo chamber and use your money to t

Cruising on a different scale

Better to design a boat where the traveler is not in the cockpit, the boom is above head height, oh yeah and drop the main early when going downwind in a freshening breeze.

I have decided to sell the Iorangi after 25 years. Here is the Trademe listing https://www.trademe.co.nz/a/motors/boats-marine/yachts/keeler/listing/4338677600

When we were sailing R's at Okahu Bay, the class shed had a couple of 18's (Smirnoff and Captain Morgan ring a bell) sailing out of there Every weekend there were Cherubs, R's, M's plus an assortment of cats in far greater numbers than the 470's and 29ers of today. The Auckland sailing club was busy, there were at least a dozen M's stored on trailers next to it, the mooring field was packed, and the hardstand was full of boats. All of this was going on at the same time, everyone managed to park and get access to the ramp including daytrippers in runabouts. What's changed? The Akarana h

which will in turn filter sailors through to keelboats), Keep this up and there won't be any keelboats left.

Lol, I'd love to know how many people were on the committee that wrote this simpering drivel. "The exclusive use of a fortunate few..." Give me a break! I'd love to compare how many boats moved through that space annually in order to keep themselves running for cruising and racing, then add up how many people got access to the water from attending said cruises and races, against your tally of dinghies and paddlers and the like. Only then could possibly I be willing to hear out your argument in good faith. And for the record, I *have* spent a *lot* of sunny weekends there in the last

Never tire of this clip RIP Banque Populaire.

Easy survey to do - only takes 5 minutes. Be sure to answer 'Strongly Support' to the question on page 2: Do you support retention of a short stay haul out and hardstand facility for boat cleaning and/or anti-foul application? https://akhaveyoursay.aucklandcouncil.govt.nz/thelanding2023

Good that they're finally doing something about it instead of just backing anchoring for the third season in a row.

Maybe not so neat but normal boats participating in a popular 'round some island' race on the Swedish west coast. Filmed by an amateur overlooking a narrow straight between two islands. The only unusual thing is the wind direction. /Martin

The Marine Center was to accommodate ALL waterborne activities. Now it seems that RAYC have become the dominant voice Thank you ratepayers for rebuilding the clubhouse. Now Fergus kayaks are being disposed of for a modern paddling center with 'çlub rooms' Duplication of spaces leads to underutilization of all spaces. The 'modern wakas' should continue to be hauled out and worked on as a continuation of past use. Why we need another park is beyond me. How much better to have a 7 days a week activity center as a point of difference and point of interest along Tamaki Drive. Unfortunate

I appreciate hearing from the other side and credit to you for standing up - few others have. However that's got to be the best line I've read on here for years... Not going to happen and everyone knows it and that's why the demise of this facility has upset so many. You don't need much infrastructure to rig a fleet of Optis in a safe and environmentally manner but the same can't be said for the annual maintenance of a 30' keeler...

Yep used that form and bent by hamd.. Only had to use an extension bar once when the tail got short. I used my mockup pvc to make to jog about right and marked 100 mm graduations along it after the main bend and used the opposite direction to create the bow bit by bit. I brought t 6m lengths of stainless so had plenty of leverage but a bit wasteful... Anyway had to try it and it worked. I'm sure if I went for a tighter radius I think sand filling would be required to stop kinks in this form. Of Bending or maybe a groove in the form and the opposite on a roller with lever on t

Fine but wheres the haulout going? Not everyone can afford to chuck the keys to their man to get the boat antifouled at Orams. This is the death of keelboating by a thousand cuts, if RAYC wants to be all things to all people i.e a dinghy/knife and fork club why should the keelboat community have to contribute to that?

Closing boatyards in the name of supporting people having access to the water is cutting off your nose to spite your face too, don't you think?

Wow, what a great big list. Most of whom won't or can't haul a mid-size tri. (believe me, I've made many, many phone calls) Listing Te Atatu when we're talking yachts is a f**king joke. The ones on the list that can haul a mid-size tri mean that for those of us who live close to the city centre now have to travel 2, 3, 4 x as far to get to the yard so no ducking down after work, and significantly adding to the stress on the weekend. I'm seriously considering selling my boat because it's not financially viable solely due to the haul-out situation. While I totally appreciate the sen

The Landing is just the latest name for the Okahu Hardstand and formerly Easthaven . Akarana never had any hold over it other than their building footprint-this is expansionist nonsense. The Dinghy sailing numbers look rather pale when compared to the numbers working on boats in the old AHB days when we were hauling /launching 12-13 boats on a tide and families and friends all worked on boats and helped each other learning as we went, this went on at the same time as the Auckland sailing club Q class and eighteen footer sailing -the R class racing and of course the M class Flying fifteen and

I note you won't deny the connection. Good oh. So your current response is to try and marginalise me with the good old "conspiracy theorist". You will win your way. You have the connections and influence, oh, and money. But you have lost a lot of respect from the wider boating community for the way you have gone about this and conducted yourself. Just saying.

In contrast, we had an Elliott 10.5 with an 18hp, and it motored beautifully. Very similar boat and probably the exact same engine (volvo 2002). Never had any issues like that and motored/maneuvered in plenty of bigger breezes than 30kn. There was a y11 I know of that only had 13hp, on a shaft, and it was a bit gutless, but has so far survived over 40 years on that motor and been and done a lot of places/stuff. There are a lot of variables here. Sail drives tend to be more efficient than shaft. Prop size, type and pitch. Is the engine operating properly etc. To provide some rea

A couple of things I don’t follow. Is the sewerage flowing into harbour continuously because of sink hole? Yes - the line is blocked, so the flow isn't getting to the Orakei pump station which would norrmally push it through the Hobson tunnel and ultimatly to Mangere Or only when stormwater ingress floods sewer system beyond capacity? - This happens due to the legacy combined sewage/stormwater system. This is steadily being seperated, but very expensive to do completly. Case in point the St Marys Bay Tunnel, caputred all the flows that would have traditionally gone out into we

Dont worry, we're on it

Hmmm lets see... E. coli levels in the Waitematā are at record highs all 23 monitoring stations, from Herald Is, down to St Helliers are reporting "very high risk" watercare has urged that people refrain from recreational activity on the water the water around the overflow outlets is black, it's absolutely wreaking of sh*t and are in the worst condition I have ever seen them - I am surprised that we have not had an algae bloom yet People can and do fall overboard, gear can and does end up in the water... If you have never dragged your sail or your sheets t

Here's some contrast. https://fb.watch/noJ2SEkmSL/?mibextid=cr9u03 Educational in terms of room and what can go wrong as opposed "neat". A closer, extreme version of the round up in triple series?

Hello Chook... up for an adventure?

I spoke to a mussel farmer, he's seen this kind of pest a few times, it has a burst then settles down- hes not too worried

Just a little fun video we made for 2023 Spring Regatta round Waiheke; Weather God been kind, we did not even get wet. I cant remember the last time Spring Regatta course been shortened, but we are glad they did, good call RYC and thanks for organizing the Regatta, it was a good fun ride. Lessons: No excuses, always look at the flags at the start!

Did anyone mention that Okahu bay has been a haul out since pre European times?

That is quite the statement. Imagine if YNZ dropped RAYC in support of the community they represent.

Fairly sure you'll find it's under utilised because the operator got the boot, you booted all the boats off it and no one can haul out. So as of now, it's just sitting their growing weeds. Yes you can legitimately say it is under utilised, but only cause you shafted it. Basic dirty tricks. PS, still didn't answer re your major donor's financial interest in the Tamaki Marine Park. If it's not true, just give us a 'no'. We'll take silence as a yes.

From the RAYC annual report... " RAYC has a close association with the Akarana Marine Sports Charitable Trust ("AMSCT"), a controlled entity of RAYC by virtue that RAYC appoints 4 of the 7 trustees of AMSCT. " and "The Akarana Marine Sports Charitable Trust ('AMSCT') is a related party as the General Committee members of the Club are also Trustees of AMSCT and the Club appoints the majority of the AMSCT Trustees"

Yup, For the club that started offshore racing from here, Ladies racing,-the day larks, winter series racing etc they can hang their heads in shame , Perhaps the Squaddy should organise more M class racing -as they and the Victoria used to and leave Akkers to the paddle boards

Just bent my own 1" stainless... Came up mint without even filling with sand but the radius was pretty big. Just takes a bit of thought and measuring.... Oh and a trial piece.

So what you are saying, to paraphrase, is that Royal Akarana want more space. The current users of the hardstand aren't important to Royal Akarana, and you have the connections and influence to get what you want. Not keen on answering the question on your financial donors vested interest in the Tamaki Marine Park?

It is very well written. And it's not been posted by a regular forum user. Looks a lot like a professional. Like a hired Communications Consultant. Or a PR specialist. A guess that is what you get when you have a lot of vested interests working in the background.

Is it true the main financial donor also owns the Tamaki Marine Park and will profit financially if lower priced / DIY competition is removed?

You would need a separator / clarifier tank on the dredge, with a direct water return to the area you are dredging. The technical challenge would be the size and effectiveness of a separator. You'd need to give up on this whole concept of avoiding any fragments going back in. The whole objective would be to reduce total biomass. Given that tide and waves are moving this around anyway, the whole concept that boat anchors are spreading it is a nonsense. Related to this is the re-growth rate of fragments. I think there has been a load of PR and scaremongering saying 1 fragment can grow into

Hi LBD Not sure who owns CoC now to be honest, last owner I met was a lively physio type from Epsom way. He loved that boat and coincidentally his wife had spent her summers on my dads previous boat Huntress which her family owned. Those triple banger names were a fad back then, probably made famous by Prospect of Whitby, Prospect of Ponsonby etc We built Contour of Cuthill in Cuthill which is between Albany and Glenfield, the Contour represents the lines that define a shape or curves...

Actually Yacht comes from Jacht which is dutch for "hunt" (if you go back far enough "hunt" and "jacht" are actually the same word, the sound just gradually changed apart in English and Dutch). The very first boats used exclusively for pleasure/leisure in the Netherlands rather than for commercial, military or transport purposes were for wealthy people to go hunting (mostly shooting ducks). So hunting boats were the only pleasure craft and the name eventually stuck to all pleasure craft, then got adopted into English because we didn't have our own word for pleasure craft. ...

Our dinghy string is a “Decorator” as it can not only paint but also hang wall paper