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  1. 10 points


    Rehab. You are the cause of this rule. You alone, as I see it. You know this, you read IT’s post a few weeks back saying his preference was for you not to spam the site, but it wasn’t currently against site rules so he was thinking of an effective rule to prevent it. You replied saying ‘preference noted’ then continued to spam the site with mostly illiterate dribble. Now you down vote people saying it may restrict people using this site for the purpose it was created - to talk about boating, when, again, you are the cause of this new rule, because of your constant posting of dribble and new threads mostly not relevant to boats. You’ve wasted IT’s time making new categories for topics and considering a new rule no other member necessitates the need for. I guess to save himself time on applying a rule evenly, he’s had to make a blanket rule over everyone, including people who make multiple helpful/ useful / insightful posts in one day. You are literally the minority, despised in every group in society, who ruins things for everyone else. You’ve posted on this thread saying you agree with the new rule. If you think max 5 posts a day is a good idea, maybe you should have self imposed that after IT (and many others) said he would prefer you not spam the site, and this wouldn’t be an issue. IT, your a patient man, must be hard and annoying to run the site with such non sense from one poster. I’d have permanently banned him long ago, but you have my support for running the site as you see fit, for the little that’s worth.
  2. 7 points

    Boating now heavily restricted

    Agree the govt has form for changing its mind on a whim, but in this context I don't have a problem with it. They are having to make decisions with massive ramifications very quickly and on limited facts. The corollary of what you are saying, is you would want the govt to get every detail perfect before announcing a decision. This happens often in local govt, is called paralysis by analysis. It is where nothing ever gets decided, nothing ever gets done, and the can is kicked down the road while the problem persists. In this context (covid 19) any decision is better than none. Is the decision perfect? No, but even half right is 50% more than nothing. As for the sport and recreation thing, that is not a priority at L3. The economy and our health are. There are things I want to buy (and a few things I need to buy) and while I can phone the shops, they aren't allowed to sell it to me. Hopefully that can happen at L3. All going well, L3 will only last 2 weeks, and we can get back to it. But this constant bitching about what we can't do recreation wise at L3 is starting to get really boring. Recreation will come at L2, in the mean time there are a few of us that would like to secure our jobs and knock off this virus, so it doesn't keep coming back every couple of months for the next 5 years. As a note, the estimated time to achieve herd immunity is 5 years in many countries, so you'd have flare ups and lock downs with no notice ongoing for years, with all the associated damage and cost to the economy. There is an underlying reason why its is the least cost option long term to stay locked down now. Just interested, can any of you guys calling for looser requirements explain the concept of exponential growth? I'd really like to know if you understand that?
  3. 7 points

    Boating now heavily restricted

    The higher the alert levels, the less rights you have. This is not some form of sinister Gvt control of the People however. It is about keeping the Public safe in a time of crises. You yourself might maintain safe minimum distances, but as already displayed by those in the far North, many simply disobey the Rules. They treat it as a joke. So the entire fight to control this outbreak falls over. The result could well affect you with the Gvt having to continue of the lockdown period. Of which I personally do not want, so we all have to just suck it up and grin and bare it.
  4. 6 points
    Island Time


    Rehab is on a 90 day "holiday", as he has now passed the max warnings. Down voting posts for no reason was the final warning.
  5. 6 points
    Yep what he said. Maybe I'm getting sensitive in my old age but I agree, 1 person is killing Crew.org It's sad.
  6. 6 points

    Boating now heavily restricted

    Jokes aside, I am going to renew my heavy trade licence as soon as a testing station and the Dr's are open. Let it lapse some time ago, but feel having a plan B for employment is worth the minor cost and time of the licence testing process. Yes I'm in private sector and am currently in 'consultation' about company wide pay cuts. i.e. its a foregone conclusion, but 95% of anyone will happilly bend over and take whats given just to keep a job and some income over the next 6-12 months, if not longer. On the boating aspect, I can understand everyones frustration about not being able to get out on the water. But look at it with some perspective. Criticizing beuracrates is not helpful. What would you do if you were calling the shots? What would your objectives be? I'd say balance economy and impact of virus - going boating isn't central to either the economy, health or managing the virus... If there is a need to stay tightly restricted for longer, i.e. at Level 4, that would not be economically sustainable even medium term (as in 4 - 8 weeks). Level 3 looks like a longer lock down, but let parts of the economy get going where practical. There is clear economic benefits to eradicating this virus and getting back to near normal quickly. If we keep on getting resurgent outbreaks over the next 12 to 24 months, the economy will suffer more, biggly. Yes it is hurting now, but there is a net benefit in taking our medicine hard and early. Half measures, like in the US, are a no-mans-land. Everyone looses, businesses / economy and social costs / deaths. Ask yourself this, would you prefer to go sailing in May and June, or would you prefer to keep your job, be able to pay for your groceries, and not have the bank sell your house while you are living in it? There is a direct relationship between spread of the virus and the impact on the economy, whether by lockdowns, or just by everyone getting sick and not physically being able to work. I think not going sailing in May and June is a very minor sacrifice for some potentially big gain. If we eradicate this thing, NZ will be the Switzerland of the South Pacific, a wealthy and desirable place to live. But it only takes 1 of you to not tow the line, and 400 of us will have it in one months time. Learn to understand exponential growth FFS.
  7. 6 points
    Ps, 2 kilometres from my house I have a Morgan, ferrari and a aeroplane sitting in my hangar. I haven’t been there since the lockup started. 2 kilometres the other way I have a launch and yacht sitting in the marina, I haven’t seen them. I have not left the house other than 4 short walks along the beachfront here. what I have been doing non stop without a break so far is supporting my clients fearful of losing their businesses. Desperate, sometimes suicidal that this lockdown ends as soon as possible. Anyone that compromises that situation is a fair target
  8. 5 points

    Ovlov charges...

    If anyone has a Volvo D1-13, D1-20, D1-30 apparently it's not uncommon to get a small oil leak from the throttle input shaft. Ovlov will quote north of $1k to fix and insist on taking the whole front of the motor apart to remove timing cover. I saw them and showed them schematics about an easier way that meant only undoing 1 nut and 4 bolts but when the mechanic went to the boat and after inspecting he said it couldn't be done without removing the timing cover. At this point I told them I would do the jib myself! I have successfully completed the job in the way I always thought possible in a fraction of the time quoted by Ovlov.
  9. 5 points
    True splat. But if something doesnt change soon, there wont be a forum here anymore.
  10. 5 points
    Black Panther

    Covid-free sailing thread

    This morning ( for Scottie)
  11. 5 points

    Boating now heavily restricted

    It's not surprising that special time hasn't been spent writing fine-grained rules about leisure boating that make everybody happy. This is a massive global crisis and it was urgent, and broad brushstrokes on a luxury pastime is no surprise. ScottieE, I'm not sure your science and economics are sound. If we eliminate we will be visiting rest homes sooner than if we wait for herd immunity and antibody testing protocols etc etc, especially if we pace herd immunity at a speed where ICUs aren't overrun (don't understand where you got your 0.1% mortality rate - the global numbers show that to be way wrong). Hindsight is great, but Sweden is still an experiment, and if our govt had tried it they would have been ripped apart like Boris J was when he (briefly) announced a herd immunity strategy. Also not sure why you think NZ's economy is so harmed by elimination compared to alternatives, nor why you single out just the PM as a "twit" on these points. In the days leading up to the lockdown there was heavy industry lobbying for a lockdown. Major industry and exporters wanted it. This is partly why the opposition agreed with it. Tourism and flights were collapsing whatever we did and the key was to minimise health and economic carnage elsewhere. The travelling barriers with elimination are small beer compared to the peril of having a long, slow pandemic spread through the community with business after business shut down again and again. Nail it quickly and NZ has a major competitive advantage. Hindsight or medical study will inform things for sure, but this strategy is what industry and scientists were telling the government to do loud and clear. The opposition agreed and their criticism has been on detail of implementation, not the overall plan. Most international commentators praise it. Either all of them are twits, or none, but not just the (female) politician you don't like. We were going to have a recession the moment this blew up in the major economies. We may yet choose to take a different approach over time (you can go from lockdown to Sweden's approach but not vice versa). But I don't think there were any loud political or industry voices saying it was stupid to lock down, quite the opposite. As for mocking it as being "kind", we did what China did (locking down Wuhan) and the Chinese government will have been focused on the economy. Twits also? Back to boating, here is a prediction: absent a vaccine, Americans will find global cruising miserable for a long time now because their approach has been terrible. Wouldn't surprise me if they (and others) face serious barriers to visiting smaller island states that can eliminate. We may just have the chance of cruising up to the islands like the old days.
  12. 5 points
    CG are fine until they start espousing what we should and shouldn't do or worse what the govt should or shouldn't do.
  13. 5 points
    Island Time

    Boating now heavily restricted

    Hard to argue about MNZ and coastguard. Coastguard is mostly for off the beach launched or trailerable craft. Coastguards "statistics" are dubious at best - helping someone or answering a question over the phone is not a rescue. They actually tow in few vessels over about 30ft, and the vast majority of those are power vessels. They do help with medical events though. I object to their mentality of "we are the authority" They are not, and have no legal authority. An example of this is their add "when you need to be rescued" not IF. Many users of this site have considerably more martime experience than most of the coastguard crews or skippers. Maritime NZ are the most disorganized organisation that I've ever dealt with. What you get told may or may not be accurate, depending on whom you speak with on what day. Everyone I know that has dealing with them says the same, but some wont admit it in public as it could effect their careers. YNZ should be representing us, with an accurate reflection of the risks provided direct to Govt, as other sporting bodies are.
  14. 5 points

    Best 40' yacht...

    Old. Wood. Carvel Planked. (1 1/4" NZ Kauri) High Maintenance. Thats my boat. 60 years old. 17 years into my ownership of her and never touched the hull, for any repair or maintenance that I can recall, mind you I am old too (70.s) and may be suffering from some memory loss. The timber hull, with no fancy glue just the plank seams calked in cotton allowing her natural sea water environment to keep her tight and dry. The way boats were meant to be built dry, warm and smelling sweet. I have never once had to dry out a cored deck, repair blisters on the hull, endure expensive osmosis treatment, install a dehumidifier to ward off condensation, etc, etc, Old Carvel planked boats are once again being unfairly maligned.
  15. 5 points
    Island Time

    Covid 19 and liveaboards

    I've had contact with the water police. Issues at barrier include raft ups and parties, as well as expecting the local store to be available for them. It's not, and has much more limited provisions and supply chain than usual. If you are out there, dont be a muppet. You are, like the rest of us, quarantined to your boat. You must stay where you are except if unsafe to do so. If you are out of food or medical supplies, come home. Then STAY there. It's not rocket science!
  16. 4 points

    Cruising is on the way out

    I had watched a few of their episodes on YouTube and am pretty happy they've decided to leave the country. They had no respect for lock-down rules or the social distancing measures taken under level 3 and were constantly whining about everything here unless they were getting a freebie in return for promoting it. Redneck, self entitled narcissists...
  17. 4 points

    The Sounds Murders back in the News

    There is one and only one reason why Watson is not being released. Purely and simply, he will not admit remorse, because he will not admit guilt. I think that tells you a lot about the guys character. Choosing to remain somewhere you don't want to be purely because you want to remain honest with yourself and everyone else. That's real integrity in my book. He is one of only a few that have basically a true life sentence where one can remain locked up for ever, with the only chance of Parole being subject to acknowledging one's guilt. Our legal system is no different to many other Countries around the World. We can't call it "Broken", but we sure can say it needs to be changed. Once a jury convicts a person based n the evidence presented, that evidence can no longer be re questioned. No matter how silly the evidence is. Only new evidence can ever be heard. In this case, the new evidence is in relation to the handling of the Blanket and if it is possible the Hairs could have been introduced to the Blanket accidentally during the Lab tests. Not that the hair was unlikely to be Olivia's, which has already been considered by the Jury and cannot be revisited. Personally I don't like the way our legal system works. But it is what we have and we have to live with it.
  18. 4 points

    And so it goes on

    You could argue working is "marina related." Hard to pay for marina berth without it.
  19. 4 points

    And so it goes on

    Move out of Auckland man ! Problems solved
  20. 4 points


    Is it just me or are others noticing that more members are getting a chance to get a word in ?
  21. 4 points
    Island Time


    Some of you might find this interesting. I have a customer who had new batts, alternator, external reg, shorepower and solar fitted by another electrical company about a year or so ago. Recently his house batts failed. They were quality AGM units. Investigation showed they had less than 30% of design capacity, after one year. Further investigation shows the batteries to be badly sulfated, due to charging voltages being too low. The Shorepower charger is a victron Centaur, the Alt reg is a Balmar, and the solar controller an EPever. Investigation of these shows the Victron unit set to AGM. Same with the EPEver. Balmar too. You might think this is OK, but, like I always say, read the PDS for your specific make and model of batteries!! In this case, the Battery PDS wants voltages 14.6-14.8 for Bulk and Absorption, and 13.6 - 13.8 for float. The standard settings provided by these manufacturers for AGM is 14.4 for bulk and 13.3 for float - its not sufficient. So what I did was replace the Solar unit (after batteries replaced with same units again), with a Victron Bluetooth unit with logging. Programmed that to the right voltages under the custom setting, and set it to do an equalization to 15.2v once per month. The Victron Shorepower unit did not actually produce the voltage it was meant to, but now set to LA (Lead Acid) it is within the specs. Still have to program the Balmar unit later today. The jist of this story is; - check your charging voltages, at bulk and at float, for all your charging sorces, and make certain that they are within the specs for YOUR batts. Or suffer premature failure....
  22. 4 points


    Note to self. Dont read posts on battery management. Keep head in sand, cross fingers and all will be well 👍
  23. 4 points


    Members like knotme and wheels often have very good advice and they will then answer questions and add another post as they have remembered something If they have to wait 24 hours to post, will they remember to do so?
  24. 4 points
    The fishing industry and bureaucratic friends are infected with self interest & turpitude. When the cameras were aboard they circumvented the procedure. While they are fishing the cameras must be rolling. Time stamped data to correlate. If fishers aren't onboard 100% they lose the right to fish.
  25. 4 points
    Island Time

    Ignoring a user

    This is deliberately in Marine Talk, so everyone can see it. If you wish to block a user (or two), so you see nothing from them, its pretty simple. That's what the "Ignore user" settings are for - click on your username in the top right corner, and add any username to the "ignore user" section. You will then see nothing from them. Done. So, if someone here really annoys you, feel free to ignore away! Have a nice day!
  26. 4 points

    How to Fix the Hauraki Gulf

    Yup. You can either obsess with the small details and pick holes in other folks efforts... or step back and see the bigger picture.
  27. 4 points

    Boating now heavily restricted

    Admittedly I can only talk from my very limited experience but my contact with YNZ has always been pleasant and professional and their fees seem very reasonable. Their press release in regards to Covid shows they have spoken with the government on behalf of all kiwi yachties and the government has made their position clear. What more can they do? Go to the media and have a whinge that we cant go sailing in the middle of an international pandemic while tens of thousands of kiwis are lining up for the dole? How would that make us look to the general public? Like a pack of self absorbed and self entitled twats???
  28. 4 points

    Covid-free sailing thread

    1. Solo sail from Tauranga up to BoI and return early to mid March. Spent a fair few days at Fitzroy (Kaiaraara bay mainly) and Tryphena. Man I like hanging at Barrier! 2. I really want to go and do a lap of White Island but if time is short even a blat out to Mayor would be amazeballs
  29. 4 points
    Bad Kitty

    Boating now heavily restricted

    Mmm, no pretty sure there's a lot of people that feel like that. 2 here anyway.
  30. 4 points
    Kevin McCready

    Boating now heavily restricted

    That's a false comparison and therefore false conclusion; heaps more people bike, walk or ran than sail. I'd be happier if everyone chilled and stopped thinking of ways to get around the rules.
  31. 3 points

    Elliphunk sunk

    An interesting detail that certainly contributed to likelihood of a collision occurring on the startline such as the one that sunk Elliphunk is major line bias. I realise that rum races are meant to be fun and not taken as seriously and that using permanent marks and start tower dramatically reduces the resource required by a club to run a race. It is also "part of the challenge" but it undoubtedly also increases the risk. Why? Because rather than the fleet spreading right along the startline, they will all congregate at one end. For this particular start, on starboard close hauled a yacht would only be doing a little better than sailing along the line... as such many started on port with some possibly not even thinking that a few boats would still consider starting on starboard with such a heading. Late dips, congestion, and a risk of another boat being forced to tack (by other starboard tackers) cutting off your escape route are likely. I suspect with rum racing the "fixed" startline won't change and you just need to think more about the possibilities... However the following day for the RNZYS winter series the startline was between Te Kouma and a laid mark yet they pretty much replicated the rum race start of the day before in regards to angle and bias. To me this is absolutely crazy! If your going to bother to actually set a line at least try and make it a fair one. The tendency is to set the line square to the course... pretty much straight across the harbour. This inevitably creates a favoured end. Instead the race committee should angle the line to balance this with the objective being that there are valid reasons to start at any position along the line and potentially win the start. This will spread the fleet along the line and also result in more boats being "in the hunt" right of the start. It also reduces the chances of OCS, and recalls. It's by no means just the RNZYS that is guilty of biased starts, virtually every club does it. This video below is a classic. Everybody wanted the windward end for a reaching start and it was carnage! SSANZ was lucky that there were no serious collisions. Some blame the sailors, and there is undoubtably some dumb stuff going on... but would this situation have happened if there was 20 deg more bias put into the other end of the line? I doubt it... well at least would be massively reduced. Same argument applies with class racing... if you get numerous general recalls generally the fleet is blamed for misbehaving. However I would put money on it that a large percentage of the time it's caused by a startline with too much bias. The other option is the line is fair but the course significantly favours one side, hence all the boats want to start at one end. The race committees challenge then is to put in enough deliberate bias to the line to tempt the fleet to spread right along the line. So what's my point... Essentially Race Management can have a massive impact on risks of collision at the start. If they are going to "set" a startline as opposed to using permeant marks etc then they should at least try to make the start a fair one. Just setting a line and thinking it's up to the sailors to sort it out I believe is a little irresponsible. The more serious the event and the greater the number of competitors the more important this becomes.
  32. 3 points
    A militarized oil tanker is not ideal for delivering emergency relief. Some charities do invaluable work with very low overheads (when I was in the game Oxfam was good), others are very thinly disguised religious proselytisers with high overheads, advertising and high executive salaries (World Vision). A better UN system would be ideal; significant reforms have been stymied by major powers. Most aid is needed in war situations (though the unfolding climate crisis will pose huge challenges) so peace keeping operations are vital. Tight logistical operations can be delivered by any competent organisation, not necessarily military at all.
  33. 3 points


    1. Here's my 2 cents, ban people who are exceptionally annoying
  34. 3 points

    Whats happening at Bean Rk?

    Can you please rephrase that in either english or some close approximation. You are like some crazy algal bloom, clogging up all of the the threads.
  35. 3 points

    cook strait in a tinnie?

    What he did or try to do is it any worse than Collin Quincy rowing the tasman or kayaking oz to nz?? 1983 sailed a hartly 16 from devonport down to coromandel up to kawau across to barier back to kawau then home. no outboard just me and the cat.trick was no rush over a three week period just waited till reaching and running.no issues at all.The old man was not impressed.
  36. 3 points

    Tory channel Entrance All ships call

    Rehabilitated I apologise for, and accept that I made an erroneous statement. I had always thought the requirement at Wellington Entrance was for commercial shipping only. But Section 6.1.1 of the Harbour regulations states the requirement for all vessels to call (with the visibility exception for pleasure craft mentioned under 6.1.2), I have learnt something today. Thank you. And I had certainly read those instructions on a number of occasions. I wasn't ignorant of them. As an aside, the requirement to call isn't mentioned in either of the Lowry Bay nor Port Nich Yacht Clubs' Cook Strait Sailing Instructions also (yet the Tory call is stated). In respect to compulsory licensing I'm in IT's camp. But I certainly have sympathies and see all sorts of stupid stuff out there. I also hold Skippers RL and am a qualified Coastguard Instructor but I certainly don't profess to know it all, quite the opposite. So the forum helps us all to learn and develop.
  37. 3 points
    Deep Purple

    On the bright side - Next project

    She's on her way
  38. 3 points
    Deep Purple

    Old pics

    NZ Moth I built when i was 13, Pelin Caribou 15 I built when i was 17 and Stratus 747 I built when i was 21. Just listed on trademe this week coincidently 47, 43 and 39 old enough?
  39. 3 points

    Boating now heavily restricted

    Yup, instant fine the selfish f*ckwits. As Aleana says, this is not week one. People know the rules. They break them with intent. Same to the idiots at burger fuel. Personally I'm a fan of going all North Korea on their arses and shooting them, but my wife says I cant say that sort of thing in public. So i better not say that here either.
  40. 3 points

    First Boat Advice

    Buy the boat you need now; something to learn and gain skills on and especially have fun on. After a sailing course over at Port Nich you know very little. For 5-7K you can pickup one of many nice little keelers around the harbour. Do a few Cook Strait crossings, spend some time glamping in the sounds, a trip or 3 around D'Urville Island, with trips over to Torrent and Nelson, a weekend sail around to Mana and Kapiti Islands. Obviously you'll gain skills, confidence and decide if you really enjoy sailing (and maintenance and fixing broken stuff), but you'll also start to discover the sort of boat you will need for long term cruising. Very few boats on TradeMe currently, given we're not allowed in most Wellington marinas till level 2. Also think seriously about where you'll keep a boat. Finding $300+ for a mooring each month doesn't help saving. And then there's maintenance, for example every 12 months you'll drop $1,000 on antifouling. I think Seaview is the only marina without a wait list. Boat ownership is a significant investment in time and money. Don't go there unless you're absolutely certain; there are literally hundreds of boats other people own that you can help sail. Get involved with a Club and you'll soon meet people that are looking for crew for different adventures. I think having done the course, that includes a short period of free membership at Port Nick. Not known for being a friendly place certainly, but you've paid, so you might as well get your money's worth. When that free membership runs out then join a club where members actually sail, and don't just talk about sailing.
  41. 3 points
    Dont expect logic from broad brush rules. Hopefully it only another couple of weeks! If rules became specific, it would be virtually impossible to police, too complex. Everyone is making sacrifices....
  42. 3 points

    2:1 halyard hardware

    Dont think thats right? Bit worried to have a go at this, but in the 1:1 case, the sail applies a 50kg load down, the halyard the same vaule to hold it up there, therefore masthead has 100kg of compression. In the 2:1 case, the load required in the halyard becomes 25kg each side of the main, and another 25kg tension, so maybe 75kg compression? Im ssure ScottiE or Ed will correct me if Im wrong.
  43. 3 points

    Covid-free sailing thread

    1 Dunedin to Havelock and back over the December to February period, immediately followed by a run down to Stewart Island which was cut short by lockdown. Pity it had to come to a halt. 2 Back down to Stewart Island in one of the good weather Winter spells (we have a good cabin heater.....)
  44. 3 points

    Boating now heavily restricted

    Sorry Kevin - I thought it would have been obvious I meant the government's policy response but have amended to clarify. It must get exhausting correcting people every time they say "the economy"!
  45. 3 points

    Boating now heavily restricted

    Agreed that CG has many flaws as an organisation - their PR machine is unnecessarily aggressive for example - BUT I’d rather they were there than not. And I’ve seen various sides of them from internal Ops to front line service (I was active crew for a few years) through to being a ‘customer’. And overall they are a great outfit of well intentioned operators (if sometimes slightly misguided and overzealous). And finally I admit I’m biased because when a CG boat turns up in the middle of the night to transfer your seriously ill child to a helicopter for airlift to Starship hospital - it kind of locks in your appreciation and loyalty. If you’re ever unfortunate enough to need the same kind of assistance you’d probably soften your critical attitudeS towards them too.
  46. 3 points

    Lockdown Build

    In the Patumahoe Boatyard things have been progressing over the past 3 weeks compared with the last 17 years when I had obtained copies of the original "Pride of Baltimore II" drawings. The actual boat a Baltimore Clipper was built in the 1980's based in the 1812 American Privateers. The build is 1:24 scale LOA (*spited) : 2160 mm LOA (hull) :1372 mm LWL :1156 mm Beam :335 mm Draft :156 mm WL to Mast Head :1448 mm SA (total) :1.57 m2 SA (working) :1.1 m2 Displ :14 kg
  47. 3 points
    Knot Me... maybe

    Marina Management

    I've just had the second berth user of a large prominent marina say they got a call from the marina saying they had checked their boats and they are all fine. All good and nice to hear they are being checked .................. bar the fact both boats left their berths and the marina the day before the lock down started and haven't been back. You can only but laugh.
  48. 3 points

    Boating now heavily restricted

    typical nonsense you can drive 45mins to go for a swim at the beach - you can't drive to the bach you can go for a surf - you can't go for a yacht - what about a windsurf or kiteboard? You can have multiple person to person contact in a supermarket - you can't go to your local bike shop. Just an arbitary set of rules based around no scientific data. Written by some civil service authoritarian beaurocrats in MBIE who think their job is an essential service - working out (after them at the top of the list) who is an essential service and who can go to the wall. Dumb. Go check out Taiwan's view on all this.
  49. 3 points

    On the bright side - Next project

    There's only so many projects you can do with supply challenges. I'm glad I started the replacement floor boards just before lockdown. Almost done.
  50. 3 points
    Black Panther

    Westhaven - Panuku Consultation

    What makes you think money equates to a better person?
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